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Are you worried about contracting coronavirus?

  • Yes, I am absolutely terrified

    Votes: 12 15.6%

  • Yes, I am slightly concerned

    Votes: 35 45.5%

  • I am neither concerned or unconcerned

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • No, I am slightly unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • No, I am totally unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • Bring back the old poll

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Charlotte Awbrey tits out doing the Macarena

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • I believe VoR is evil

    Votes: 11 14.3%
  • Total voters
    77
big ron said:
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11 yesterday, today still hasnt finished
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I see what you mean. It was actually 11 for the whole of the UK yesterday, not just England. In addition, figures announced on a Monday will be the deaths from Sunday, which have always been lower. It's a little hard to be certain that I've found all the right figures, but I think it's the highest figure announced on a Monday since late June. I'd love you to be right that the virus has evolved to be less deadly but I don't think I can believe it based on where the figures seem to be going.
 
I dont think it has, its a possibility, but theres nothing to suggest thats the case.

There is a stronger argument that its a combination of reduced viral load, less indoor transmission, better treatment and probably other minor factors. Winter will probably increase things, but I’m still hopeful it won’t be that severe.
 
Win_the_game said:
I'm no statistician but it's a bit early to draw on conclusions on this week given that it is only TUESDAY. :)
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I am a statistician and I used rolling averages for the 7 days up to each TUESDAY for the last 7 weeks... I'm not a fucking retard.
 
dmlaw said:
I see what you mean. It was actually 11 for the whole of the UK yesterday, not just England. In addition, figures announced on a Monday will be the deaths from Sunday, which have always been lower.
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That's why you need to look at rolling weekly averages to get figures that actually make any sense.
 
big ron said:
I dont think it has, its a possibility, but theres nothing to suggest thats the case.

There is a stronger argument that its a combination of reduced viral load, less indoor transmission, better treatment and probably other minor factors. Winter will probably increase things, but I’m still hopeful it won’t be that severe.
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And also... I think a lot of the weakest people are already DEAD. I think there's quite a lot in that tbh.

Also at least 8% of the population are already likely to be some form of immune (though they don't want to say that as they don't want people to stop social distancing) but the likelihood is that there's some level of immunity at least for some time, as with most diseases of this type. And in London they think that figure is likely to be around 17% (one of the reasons that London isn't getting as hit by the second wave, despite people being in closer proximity).

I haven't heard of anyone being diagnosed with it twice - and if there were someone it would make headlines pretty quickly.
 
But anyway, maybe it's because of my job, but the fact that I get in pretty close proximity with anywhere in the region of 1000+ students in a week, I find it fucking ridiculous that I'm expected to limit my friendship group to 6. It drives me up the wall tbh. I'm not a COVID denier, but I do believe we need to start getting to some level of normality soon. I don't think we'll hit the figures of 1000+ deaths a day again

(WATCH THIS POST BLOW UP IN MY FACE IN NOVEMBER)...
 
I think there have been about 3 or 4 cases of reinfection in the world... it's very very rare

One thing I've been wondering, if it did pick off all the 'low hanging fruit' in March/April, how long does it take for another batch of 40k to ripen? Honestly something I wouldn't know.

BTW everyone should be taking vitamin D supplements. After seeing all the mountain of evidence Dr Campbell has presented I'm still not sure why it's barely heard of.
 
cwej said:
I haven't heard of anyone being diagnosed with it twice - and if there were someone it would make headlines pretty quickly.
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I'm sure the English CMO said yesterday there were a small number of confirmed cases of reinfections. Not sure if they were in the UK though
 
Cloud said:
I think there have been about 3 or 4 cases of reinfection in the world... it's very very rare
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So far less rare than getting influenza twice in a winter for example?


One thing I've been wondering, if it did pick off all the 'low hanging fruit' in March/April, how long does it take for another batch of 40k to ripen? Honestly something I wouldn't know.
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I reckon quite a while... but everyone's prone to different things. It's got 40000 people who were very prone to this particular virus.

BTW everyone should be taking vitamin D supplements. After seeing all the mountain of evidence Dr Campbell has presented I'm still not sure why it's barely heard of.
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I wanna know about this...! *googles*
 
cwej said:
So far less rare than getting influenza twice in a winter for example?
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It's worth bearing in mind that we aren't yet in the position to know if they were rare cases that lost immunity, or are just the ones that lost it much sooner than what will become average.
 
cwej said:
(one of the reasons that London isn't getting as hit by the second wave, despite people being in closer proximity).
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This is nonsense though. The ONS random survey results show that London has the second highest infection rates in the country right now (below the north west, but *higher* than the north east and we all know where they've been heading)

The primary reason for London's lower rates of infection on the official record is because of lack of testing centres, getting to them and car ownership rates.

The ONS survey is better because of the random sampling element so it doesn't rely so much on those bits.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ionsurveypilot/englandandwales18september2020
 
Now really is the time to choose “absolutely terrified” in this poll, isn’t it? :(
 
I didnt realise there were only 50 drive through testing centres in the country. My nearest is about a five minute walk, so I see it all the time. I guess that made me assume there were more.
 
Indie said:
This is nonsense though. The ONS random survey results show that London has the second highest infection rates in the country right now (below the north west, but *higher* than the north east and we all know where they've been heading)

The primary reason for London's lower rates of infection on the official record is because of lack of testing centres, getting to them and car ownership rates.

The ONS survey is better because of the random sampling element so it doesn't rely so much on those bits.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ionsurveypilot/englandandwales18september2020
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Interesting. I didn't know this. I did think it was strange that with such close proximity our figures weren't continuing to be higher...
 
Indie said:
I didnt realise there were only 50 drive through testing centres in the country. My nearest is about a five minute walk, so I see it all the time. I guess that made me assume there were more.
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Were there always so little? Or did they just close lots of them down?
 
cwej said:
So far less rare than getting influenza twice in a winter for example?
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Honestly I wouldn't know, but 3 or 4 out of the 31 million or so cases suggests it's pretty darn rare :)
AIUI, for this coronavirus which doesn't mutate as much as something like the flu, immunity is pretty solid. But that no immunity is absolutely 100% in 100% of people (unless they're the sith).

I wanna know about this...! *googles*
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Lots of videos but I'd start here Vitamin D and Immunity, Lots of Evidence
I wouldn't normally give Youtube "experts" the time of day but this guy cites all his sources meticulously and is very neutral.

SDF said:
Now really is the time to choose “absolutely terrified” in this poll, isn’t it? :(
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I finally selected it yesterday
Not for myself, for if I catch it and pass it on to my parents
 
SDF said:
Were there always so little? Or did they just close lots of them down?
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my mum said they closed the one in Milton Keynes because not enough people used it, so my nephew had to go to one in LEICESTER, about an hour drive away (presuming you have a car). But the samples are sent for analysis to... Milton Keynes
 
SDF said:
Now really is the time to choose “absolutely terrified” in this poll, isn’t it? :(
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No?!?! Like... its crude death rate is 4% - which is likely to be a massive overestimate, as so many people have had the disease and not been tested. It's more likely to be no more than 1.5-2%. (If the figures of 7% having had the disease and 60,000 excess deaths are to be believed then we're looking at 1.3%.)

And treatment is getting better for it as they learn more, so that figure is likely to reduce further still.

Of course, it's slightly worrying, but being 'absolutely terrified' is a massive overreaction. You're more likely to die in a car crash than from Coronavirus and we're not all going around frightened to death every time we cross the road.
 
Indie said:
This is nonsense though. The ONS random survey results show that London has the second highest infection rates in the country right now (below the north west, but *higher* than the north east and we all know where they've been heading)

The primary reason for London's lower rates of infection on the official record is because of lack of testing centres, getting to them and car ownership rates.

The ONS survey is better because of the random sampling element so it doesn't rely so much on those bits.

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ionsurveypilot/englandandwales18september2020
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If I were a cynic i’d say they were quite happy to be ignorant of the rising rates in London due to the economic impacts of lockdown there.
 
The higher ups have decided we should all be seeing five customers a day face to face. Meanwhile, the local council have applied for a local lockdown because our numbers have surged. Looking forward to my fortnight off.
 
I don’t buy that all of the most vulnerable have died from this already. Statistically that just doesn’t hold up especially if only 8% of the population has even had it in the first place.

And I say “only” because that leaves a vast majority still susceptible to it (and yes they have given that figure in the coverage, many times in the last few days).
 
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cwej said:
. You're more likely to die in a car crash than from Coronavirus and we're not all going around frightened to death every time we cross the road.
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Not our master statistician overlord snatching this absolute nonsense argument directly out of the hands of Republicans and other assorted intellectual undesirables! Give it back, we want you to retain your crown as the smartest brain on Moopy!
 
big ron said:
I’m more terrified of the long lasting psychological impact than I am the virus id I’m honest
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yes I think this is what is playing on my mind, the thought of this going on and on and not seeing people is just all a bit much :(
 
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