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Inspired by the weekend I spent binge watching Wild Wild Country. What’s your favorite cult/cult related story or film?

I’m all about Ma Anand Sheela, she’s truly fabulous if you’re willing to ignore the murders she attempted



 
Allison Mack who played Chloe on Smallville has been arrested for being part of a cult called Nxivm who branded women and used them as sex slaves.

Last week, a man named Keith Raniere, co-founder of an Albany-based self-help group/pyramid scheme called Nxivm (Pronounced “Nexium,” like the heartburn medication) was arrested in Mexico and extradited back to the U.S. on federal charges of sex trafficking. According to the FBI, Raniere, who went by the nickname “Vanguard,” had been living in a $10,000-a-week luxury villa with a group of women he referred to as his “slaves.”

“Slaves” were allegedly coerced into sexual contact with Raniere and expected to perform menial labor for his closest and most loyal female followers, a “secret sorority” called DOS (Dominos Obsequious Sororium, or Master Over the Slave Women). “Slaves” were allegedly restricted to a 500-800 calorie a day diet—Rainere, you see, prefers thin women, not to mention that starving people are easy to control—and forced to wear “fake cow udders over their breasts” while being publicly humiliated if they disobeyed. They were also expected to offer up damaging information on themselves that could be used as “collateral” if they tried to leave the group. Raniere’s teachings on the subject of sex are vastly different than those of the aforementioned Rajneeshee, preaching that women are naturally monogamous and men naturally promiscuous.

Once recruited, new “slaves” were branded with a symbol incorporating Raniere’s initials, along with those of DOS’s alleged leader and Raniere’s alleged second-in-command—Smallville’s Allison Mack. (You may also remember Mack as the love interest on the FX series Wilfred.) Until quite recently, Mack was the leader of a Nxivm women’s subgroup called Jness, which ironically preached “female empowerment” in a series of self-help classes. Top Jness students were then invited to join DOS, which Mack allegedly helped form as “a united group of women branded in the name of Mr. Raniere and Miss Mack—which will be a force for good, and a female force against evil.” The most elite of those were then allegedly invited to join Rainere at his compound.

And Mack is only one of the influential women caught in Raniere’s orbit. As far back as 2010, Vanity Fair ran a story called “The Heiresses And The Cult” detailing how Seagrams heiresses Sara and Clare Bronfman had blown more than $150 million of the family fortune on Nxivm and Raniere, and Dynasty actress Catherine Oxenberg told The New York Times last year of her concern over her daughter, who she said had joined DOS. Goldie Hawn and Grace Park—both of whom bailed as soon as they realized what was actually going on—were loosely associated with Nxivm groups at various points, and actresses Linda Evans and Nicki Clyne were named as members in a 2012 investigation into the group by an Albany newspaper. Just last week, Mack’s Smallville co-star Kristin Kreuk tweeted about her involvement with Nxivm, saying she left five years ago and wasn’t party to any of the (alleged) truly crazy shit
 
Sheela was ICONIC. If the cult of Brexit or Trump had someone half as focused as she was we would all be in deep(er) shit.

My favourite cult currently is The Church of Euthanasia.
 
I have a cousin who majored psychology and one of his focuses' was on cults. I remember he used to bring up Sheela quite a bit, was FASCINATED by her (crimes aside), you'd almost think he worshiped her.
 
Sheela was ICONIC. If the cult of Brexit or Trump had someone half as focused as she was we would all be in deep(er) shit.

They really glossed over most of the horrible things that they did at the commune and even the salmonella and releasing of homeless were portrayed as no big deal.
 
Fiat Lux is my favourite cult, Uriella is a QOL. Who else could produce miracle water by stirring bath water with a silver spoon (obviously she was in trance doing it).

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3 episodes into The Vow and it’s fantastic. It’s very well made and doesn’t feel icky and explorative.
 
Oh I will have to start that!

Also I’ve discovered Leah Remini: Scientology & The Aftermath is now on Hayu, so of COURSE I’m going to have rewatch the whole thing.
 
Allison Mack who played Chloe on Smallville has been arrested for being part of a cult called Nxivm who branded women and used them as sex slaves.

She's just been sentenced to 3 years in prison and a $20k fine for her involvement. I'm amazed it took so long to go to trial. The whole thing was truly bizarre.
 
She's just been sentenced to 3 years in prison and a $20k fine for her involvement. I'm amazed it took so long to go to trial. The whole thing was truly bizarre.

Yeah she got off lightly because she gave them dirt on Keith. I’m sure we’ll learn more on the next season of The Vow.
 
So I think we had a similar thread a while back, might have been a Scientology thread, and I was saying I love watching ANYTHING around people being brainwashed and joining these organisations. It’s truly jaw dropping. I’ll be checking these out!
 
Has anyone watched Stolen Youth on Disney+ / Hulu?

I didn't know anything about this incident or case at all, but as mentioned above I am fascinated by anything involving brainwashing and cults. I've watched the 1st of 3 episodes and it's predictably very good - shocking, fascinating, and does a good job of telling you that everything that has unravelled so far hasn't even scratched the surface of what's to come and is about to get much darker.

Someone else watch it please so I can talk about it!
 
Has anyone watched Stolen Youth on Disney+ / Hulu?

I didn't know anything about this incident or case at all, but as mentioned above I am fascinated by anything involving brainwashing and cults. I've watched the 1st of 3 episodes and it's predictably very good - shocking, fascinating, and does a good job of telling you that everything that has unravelled so far hasn't even scratched the surface of what's to come and is about to get much darker.

Someone else watch it please so I can talk about it!

It's insane! The way one man was responsible for that!
 
Are you just familliar with the story or have you watched the show @jivafox ? I agree, especially when all the victims and their friends are so intelligent. I love their brutal honesty about what happened.

I'm curious why there are so many voice recordings of telephone conversations that happened though? I started to think that they might be dramatisation voice recordings but that would seem defamatory? Also they sound so real...

Curious if @POP! and @RJN are familiar with the story, I assume it was on the news when it happened and wasn't all that long ago.
 
I read the article of the story (which actually helped bring the asshole to justice, legally) and then heard a podcast about it, then saw the series. I think the show is great to actually hear from the people involved.
 
OK I'll be back when I've watched the full thing. So much has yet to be explained regarding his daughter and her part in all this, and I can tell that there's a lot more to come. I already feel really sorry for the parents of these kids. The latino mom and her necklace :(
 
I read the article of the story (which actually helped bring the asshole to justice, legally) and then heard a podcast about it, then saw the series. I think the show is great to actually hear from the people involved.

Forgot to say that I finished this and… wow.

The extent of the abuse was just crazy. Hard to believe that those kids accepted it for so long when they could have just physically walked away at any point but mentally were completely bound to him.

Do you have any other cult documentary recommendations and where I can find them?
 
Forgot to say that I finished this and… wow.

The extent of the abuse was just crazy. Hard to believe that those kids accepted it for so long when they could have just physically walked away at any point but mentally were completely bound to him.

Do you have any other cult documentary recommendations and where I can find them?

The Vow on HBO is 2 seasons and pretty good.

Wild Wild Country on Netflix if you haven’t seen that yet.
 
Ooh that should be on NowTV here then, I’ll have a look

And I have heard of WWC but didn’t know what it was about, I will definitely watch that as well, thank you
 
Well this is getting a bit of buzz and looks absolutely ridiculous therefore amazing

Anyone else watched it?

Edit: it’s a 3 parter on Netflix apparently.

 
Well I watched the first episode and despite hating everyone at first (stage kids and stage parents galore) I started to get hooked as it got serious.

And like any great docuseries they ended the first episode on an overdramatic cliffhanger so I definitely recommend.

@Moderator this thread should probably be in the TV forum now. It's just about cult TV Shows.
 
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