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It's his fault. Everything is his fault.What about him?![]()
It's his fault. Everything is his fault.What about him?![]()
Brexit Party didn't exist last time. So it always a gain...?Sunderland Central - Labour hold, but 13% down and a 12% swing to the BREXIT PARTY.
Well, you're going to get what you wanted you absolute fucking cunts.
Sunderland Central - Labour hold, but 13% down and a 12% swing to the BREXIT PARTY.
Well, you're going to get what you wanted you absolute fucking cunts.
what is most depressing of all is the idea that Jeremy Corbyn is 'toxic' - what has he done, besides being reviled by the media, has made him such a hateful figure for the average joe?
the power that our media has over our political system is just *sigh*

Babe. It's time to let him go.
Sunderland Central - Labour hold, but 13% down and a 12% swing to the BREXIT PARTY.
Well, you're going to get what you wanted you absolute fucking cunts.
It doesn't matter whether the papers have caused his toxicity or not. There's an unlevel playing field and that is something which a Labour leader has to factor in to everything about the way they do the job. Corbyn has failed to do that on every level and it has played into the right wing press' hands.To be honest, I was never that attached to him. I certainly didn't back him when he was first elected. But there's no doubt that his 'toxicity' is a line that we've been fed OVER AND OVER by the papers.
Labour desperately needs a unifying figure. That won't be a Blairite, but it has to be somebody closer to the centre than Corbyn and McDonnell.
Losing Corbyn will be a relief to be fair.
If a left wing government can't win a majority, and there hasn't been a left wing government in forty years, then I'd take a Blairite over Boris Johnson every single day.Not for everyone. I will renounce my membership if we get some CENTRIST FUCKING CUNT instead.
Not for everyone. I will renounce my membership if we get some CENTRIST FUCKING CUNT instead.
If a left wing government can't win a majority, and there hasn't been a left wing government in forty years, then I'd take a Blairite over Boris Johnson every single day.
What's the point in a left wing government if it isn't actually a left wing government?
The point is that it's not a right wing government. I want a socialist government, but any left wing candidate needs to explain to me how they are going to stop this happening again in 2024 with a biased press buttressed by five years of Boris Johnson's bullshit. There's no point in having excellent policies if you can't win.What's the point in a left wing government if it isn't actually a left wing government?
He's electoral anthrax. Other people want the same. People regard him as the first politicianto hold those ideals, like some sort of God. I get it, but I can see delusion from a distance.Why? Not a fan of thoroughly decent, fair minded people who desperately want a fairer society?
He's electoral anthrax. Other people want the same. People regard him as the first politicianto hold those ideals, like some sort of God. I get it, but I can see delusion from a distance.
Also my God we need a remain Labour leader.
We needed it four years ago.But the places Labour is losing voted leave.

We're about an hour away from a surge of results I expect. London is normally early so that will at least be less terrible.
Would it though? Traditional Labour voters going to the Tories would be lot bigger than going to the Brexit Party. It's heartbreaking, but Nigel Farage has played this very well.Those Brexit shares... on the one hand, if they'd contested Tory seats this could have been softer. On the other, if they didn't exist it'd be an even bigger Labour wipeout.
I guess that started with Blair. Except the Tories hadn't quite yet weaponised Eurosceptism as an electoral tool to manipulate the uneducated.no results yet but it’s madness that London and the south east now seems to be a labour stronghold and Yorkshire has gone Tory.