Love Sensation Chart Prediction (Madonna & Kylie) (1 Viewer)

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  • UK No. 1

  • UK Top 5 (2-5)

  • UK Top 10 (6-10)

  • UK Top 20 (11-20)

  • UK Top 40 (21-40)

  • Will not chart in the UK Top 40

  • US No. 1

  • US Top 5 (2-5)

  • US Top 10 (6-10)

  • US Top 20 (11-20)

  • US Top 40 (21-40)

  • US Top 100 (41-100)

  • US Bubbling Under

  • Will not chart in the USA

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Eddie said:
Actually how do we determine the success of a remix of a song that has already been released?
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Well sometimes it's the remix version that 'takes off' and charts properly (or gathers the larger proportion of streams) rather than the original version. There have been plenty of examples of that in recent years.

In the case of Love Sensation I expect the streams will be combined for the remix and album versions. Given that they're releasing physicals but the shipment date is not until September I don't know if there is a strategy behind the scenes to try and maximise the chart impact - and I think there is. Whether or not it takes off on streaming remains to be seen (I doubt it will but I remain hopeful.)
 
Suedehead said:
Well that's a bit ridiculous and we don't really know what happened behind the scenes. Bring Your Love was originally Madonna solo and Sabrina was added to it; it might have been a similar scenario with Kylie but the vinyls had already been pressed etc.
Why do people always have to jump to shady conclusions first rather than celebrating the fact that these two women have had mutual respect and admiration for years and this was an organic development from when they first performed together a couple of years ago rather than try to build narratives that don't exist.
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Whilst I primarily agree with this and I think it is FABULOUS they are together, the (gay internet interest at least) has shown that it's a bit of a missed opportunity in terms of the buzz its producing considering it's a pre-released song and feels a bit reactionary to the fanbase rather than the all-blazing slam dunk it could have been. The buzz itself feels equal to, if not more, than Bring Your Love managed, no?

And I think it's also OK to say that without being accused of "shady conclusions"...
 
That "strategy" point is interesting. I wonder if this WAS the plan from the start. If so, it seems odd they're pushing it all on Love Sensation which, let's face it, isn't even on the main album.
 
Sheena said:
Whilst I primarily agree with this and I think it is FABULOUS they are together, the (gay internet interest at least) has shown that it's a bit of a missed opportunity in terms of the buzz its producing considering it's a pre-released song and feels a bit reactionary to the fanbase rather than the all-blazing slam dunk it could have been. The buzz itself feels equal to, if not more, than Bring Your Love managed, no?

And I think it's also OK to say that without being accused of "shady conclusions"...
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I think this remix was planned all along. They pretty much hinted it at it at the Graham Norton interview and Kylie was being asked about a potential collaboration before anything was released from the album.
So I think the whole thing has been part of the rollout and they had started planning on doing something together around the time she appeared on the Celebration Tour.
It might come across as reactionary to the fanbase but I don't think it is.
 
Sheena said:
That "strategy" point is interesting. I wonder if this WAS the plan from the start. If so, it seems odd they're pushing it all on Love Sensation which, let's face it, isn't even on the main album.
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Bingo.
 
I think Warner really wants a UK top 10 single this time around and I think this is a win-win for both of their teams. It makes good business sense for Kylie as well.
The one thing that has taken me by surprise is the CD single release to be honest. But strategically it makes perfect sense.
 
Suedehead said:
I think this remix was planned all along. They pretty much hinted it at it at the Graham Norton interview and Kylie was being asked about a potential collaboration before anything was released from the album.
So I think the whole thing has been part of the rollout and they had started planning on doing something together around the time she appeared on the Celebration Tour.
It might come across as reactionary to the fanbase but I don't think it is.
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But it might have just been the plan to do Amsterdam together rather than releasing a duet. We all know the current Madonna modus operandi is singing over a backing track, so the song was created as part of that, they liked it, it's getting a release...
 
I mean they are the two MOST SUCCESSFUL FEMALE ARTISTS OF ALL TIME IN THE UK* and they have both been around for FORTYISH YEARS and they're releasing a single together.

It's fucking POP MUSIC HISTORY!!





(*Yeah I know Taylor Swift probably has more number 1s than both of them now blah blah)
 
Suedehead said:
I think Warner really wants a UK top 10 single this time around and I think this is a win-win for both of their teams. It makes good business sense for Kylie as well.
The one thing that has taken me by surprise is the CD single release to be honest. But strategically it makes perfect sense.
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But also, this is another thing that suggests to me it wasn't long planned- they're releasing CDs because they're easy to press and there isn't backup issues at production plants like there are for vinyl. If this was long decided, surely they'd have pressed a 7" or 12". Indeed, Kylie does that for most of her singles...
 
Sheena said:
But it might have just been the plan to do Amsterdam together rather than releasing a duet. We all know the current Madonna modus operandi is singing over a backing track, so the song was created as part of that, they liked it, it's getting a release...
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It's certainly possible but I think someone somewhere had heard Kylie was doing/recording something with Madonna because why was she being asked about whether she'd be on the album before it was even out. It just feels like it was somehow 'planted'.

Anyway, Stuart Price tends to run his mouth freely about how songs came about and how they were recorded, timelines etc. so I suspect we may find out soon anyway...
 
Fuck me. Calm down. I’m allowed to have preferred her on an original song, she deserves it. Sorry to not sign off on every numpty decision of your One True God.
 
Sheena said:
But also, this is another thing that suggests to me it wasn't long planned- they're releasing CDs because they're easy to press and there isn't backup issues at production plants like there are for vinyl. If this was long decided, surely they'd have pressed a 7" or 12". Indeed, Kylie does that for most of her singles...
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Possible, but again CD singles have proven in recent times to be a quick win for artists to get chart positions - like Taylor Swift did recently with the Toy Story thing.
They could have easily done that with Bring Your Love to engineer a Top 20 or maybe even Top 10 placement but they didn't.
Which again makes me think this was in the offing for a while... or maybe things are moving quickly behind the scenes.
Either way it's all very exciting!!
 
ExcitableWoof said:
Fuck me. Calm down. I’m allowed to have preferred her on an original song, she deserves it. Sorry to not sign off on every numpty decision of your One True God.
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Fair enough and anyway, who knows - maybe they will work together on an original song in the future. They seem to have a fantastic energy together, and it would be cool if they wrote something original together.
 
I don't think CD singles and tiny streaming will be enough to push this into the upper reaches of the UK chart. I hope I'm wrong though!
 
I'm trying to imagine a (parallel) universe in which this was the opening single and whether it would have done anything compared to BMYL.
 
Eddie said:
I'm trying to imagine a (parallel) universe in which this was the opening single and whether it would have done anything compared to BMYL.
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I don't think it would have performed significantly differently, unless the promo strategy was very different.
 
if they create something original together I'd rather have an ICY ELECTRO ART BANGER courtesy of MIRWAIS (who still says his own Kylie track is coming "soon") than anything in the Confessionsverse I think. what can I say? I don't like it too OBVIOUS, DARLING.
 
I'm curious to how the CD sales will count towards charts in any case - does my UK purchase of the US and Australian single count towards the UK chart, the charts of those countries, or indeed count at all?
 
anything bought from the UK store and delivered to the UK counts as a sale here. but whether it's 1 or 3 sales I'm not sure. I think you have to make 3 separate transactions for all 3 sales to count.
 
If that is the case re the international versions, I thought as long as the items had individual bar codes (rather than one for the bundle) they were multiple sales.

Surely there's no way they miss out on such sales in the album charts all the time. All those fans who bought multiple copies of the album didn't do them in individual transactions.
 
Well, unless the rules are different in that respect for the singles chart.

It seems crazy to me if they still have that rule on number of formats, when nothing similar exists on the album chart.
 
Jark said:
anything bought from the UK store and delivered to the UK counts as a sale here. but whether it's 1 or 3 sales I'm not sure. I think you have to make 3 separate transactions for all 3 sales to count.
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I am not convinced of this. I remember Saint Etienne telling everyone to use the download card in their vinyl album as it counted as a separate sale and surely the record companies wouldn't push bundles so hard if it was negative for chart results.
 
Oh Lolly answered much better than me already.
 
I have read that before but they don't seem to publish any rules so who knows. album variants do tend to drop over a prolonged period of time though so most multi variant buyers won't be buying them all in one transaction. there were only a small handful of Confessions II variants at launch.
 
With the physical singles, I'd be happy if it did the same as Bring Your Love. If Madonna gets ANOTHER top 40 i'd also be happy. Lets see.
 
Girls why are we fighting!!!
Halli said:
With the physical singles, I'd be happy if it did the same as Bring Your Love. If Madonna gets ANOTHER top 40 i'd also be happy. Lets see.
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So you wouldn't be happy if Kylie got ANOTHER top 40? You're so SHADY!!!!
 
I'll be optimistic that it'll scrape the Top 40. But overall it's a fabulous marketing strategy in a world where labels usually down tools once an album has been released, save for the odd "single" release a few months later for a deluxe or a radio push. This campaign has been relentless since it began. Kudos to everyone involved.
 
And yes if she does tour / play some live shows next year I am sure Kylie will join on love sensation on a few shows
 
Sheena said:
If we're getting annoyed about shit takes, this nonsense reducing Padam Padam to a fanbase only hit when it was about JUST ABOUT THE BEST EXAMPLE OF AN ACTUAL CROSSOVER HIT FROM A NORMALLY JUST FANBASE SUCCESSFUL ARTIST EVER annoyed me.
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Padam was the epitome of a genuine, organic hit, mainly fuelled by unprecedented streaming numbers for her. I just said the fanbase felt motivated to push for the highest peak possible when realising its potential. BMG responded fantastically planning a single campaign on a weekly basis while the song was growing. They activated fans do their part by providing last minute digital purchases on Thursdays and, most importantly, producing physical formats in short notice. Padam would have smashed anyway, but there'd be no number 8 peak without the fanbase. Same goes for XMAS, streaming was guaranteed, it just needed a further push from the fanbase through physicals and, well, look how that turned out. Perhaps my phrasing was a bit off, apologies as English ain't obviously my mother language.
 
Jark said:
I have read that before but they don't seem to publish any rules so who knows. album variants do tend to drop over a prolonged period of time though so most multi variant buyers won't be buying them all in one transaction. there were only a small handful of Confessions II variants at launch.
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I disagree - I'd say most albums now by strong fanbase acts have considerably more formats at week of release than being released over a period of time.

And weren't there more than a 'small handful' of Confessions II available at launch, even if it was fewer than some other acts?

Also, from the rules

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Like ANYONE posting in it is going to come out of it well
 
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