2024 US Presidential Election

Well on a list of ways to recoup hefty legal fees and pay for another sham election, “digital trading cards” didn’t actually feature very high. Who knew.
 
Mitch's many chins of evil remain thoroughly undiminished though :disco:
 
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Clairvoyant!
 
it's the way he's put his own name in quotation marks for me.
 
3, if she even makes it to Iowa. (Iowa's still first up for the Republicans right?)

It's hard to see what the lane is for sort of secular 'constructive' anti-Trumpism. Pence will have the explicitly religious anti-Trumpism tied up, DeSantis (who's curiously not all that vocal about religion) will have the rest. She's essentially running for the VP slot I presume
 
Penelope said:
3, if she even makes it to Iowa. (Iowa's still first up for the Republicans right?)

It's hard to see what the lane is for sort of secular 'constructive' anti-Trumpism. Pence will have the explicitly religious anti-Trumpism tied up, DeSantis (who's curiously not all that vocal about religion) will have the rest. She's essentially running for the VP slot I presume
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so 40% for Trump
40% DeSantis
7% Pence
5% Larry Hogan (these people will begrudgingly vote for Biden and maybe should just accept the Republican party has left them
3% Haley
5% others
 
Room for Hogan and Haley to make it to 8% between them feels...ambitious. Pompeo will probably scrape together about 3% too.
 
Conspiracy time: this is all designed to split the moderate vote so Trump coasts to victory.

They’re all in it together! (Except for DeSantis and Pence)

She’ll probably get on the ticket for her efforts.
 
funky said:
Conspiracy time: this is all designed to split the moderate vote so Trump coasts to victory.

They’re all in it together! (Except for DeSantis and Pence)

She’ll probably get on the ticket for her efforts.
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Maybe true but also I don't think there are enough moderates who vote in Republican primaries to make a difference
 
I did read somewhere that a Haley run would be far more damaging to Desantis than Trump. I guess if you're still in any way inclined to vote Trump at this stage, nothing's going to change your mind.
 
Fucking hell. A former American president playing with terrorist propoganda. He keeps lowering the bar.
 
In other ‘retro figures of the 2020 electoral cycle’ news, these two grifters are finally admitting the obvious.

 
what is a grifter in this context and why does @VoR keep using it please?
 
Swindlers. Con artists. In this instance, and in the Russell Brand case, people who will say anything and abandon any morals in pursuit of a quick buck.

KellyAnne is known to privately hate Trump, but she's followed the money train while helping to cause untold damage to her country's democracy. Her husband is on the other side of the argument but comes across as just as opportunistic. Their sham marriage was clearly only being held together because the fascination around it boosted both their profiles. Their own daughter outed them on social media several times and complained that their behaviour and public fighting was damaging her own mental health, but I guess they cared more about the money. 🤷‍♂️
 
Kellyanne Conway is one of the scariest people. She can lie and twist words so well
 
though I’m not sure how much trump actually cares about what’s going on in Europe
 
RJN said:
though I’m not sure how much trump actually cares about what’s going on in Europe
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It’s more what Putin is willing (and able) to do for him in return for helping him win the war, is what I took from that. Rather than Trump caring one way or another about Europe, which of course he doesn’t.
 
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