A Carly Simon thread

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A few weeks ago VoR recommended the Carly Simon's GH 'Reflections', after quite a few listens here are my thoughts:

1. You're So Vain - It's weird when there are those songs that you've ALWAYS known yet don't actually think to listen to ever because you automatically think you've made your mind up and criminally underrate it yourself as a result. This is one of those songs for me, I adore it on this Greatest Hits but never properly gave it a chance before 9/10
2. Anticipation - One of her other big hitters I see, very much AC radio fodder but I quite like it, I can imagine it'd be the type of song my mom would sing horribly off key to in the car (she did this my entire childhood to old Carole King, James Taylor, Beatles etc) but it's pleasant as is 6/10
3. Nobody Does It Better - Another nice slowie, I like this one a bit better though, the arrangement is a little less formulaic, lovely instruments and quite lush 7.5/10
4. That's the Way I've Always Heard It Should Be - omg this is gorgeous :shy:, I have to give Carly credit. Beyond the face of predictable AC hell I always suspected in her catalog this has really bittersweet and :( lyrics, and the whole thing is really quite haunting particularly the verses. Was this autobiographical in some way? I can imagine it has quite the back story for her 9/10
5. Coming Around Again - this was definitely my favorite aside from "Why", it's very late 80s/early 90s Laura Branigan and that's a huge compliment coming from me. I LOVE the key change(?) in the chorus, the chanting "I believe in love..." :( 10/10
6. The Right Thing to Do - this one made less impact on me, pleasant enough but not enough to re-gain my attention after the amazing preceding track 6/10
7. Let the River Run - sounds like a 90s christian track, a nice melody it has but it kind of reminds me of Debbie Harry's dreadful "Communion". I am a sucker for gospel choir though 6.5/10
8. I've Got to Have You - a bit quieter but I like the dramatic change-up at around 2:45, definitely the kind of music to listen to during a thunderstorm on a late Summer afternoon. 7/10
9. Mockingbird - cheesy as fuck :D, but I'd be lying if I wasn't nodding along to it and mouthing the words by the third listen. Not something I'd ever choose to put on willingly but it's fun enough 6/10
10. Legend in Your Own Room - I found this one a bit boring but nice simple guitar track 5/10
11. Why - I certifiably love this now, not just the catchy 'la di da di da's but the backing track is amazing in a funky, pop, reggae/calypso sort of way and I actually think she sounds fucking sexy on it, sorry :D 10/10
12. We Have No Secrets - I love the subtle instrumentation here, and the sweeping in and out (is it a keyboard? it happens right after "sometimes I wish" and in the break before it), quite dreamy 8/10
13. Haven't Got Time for the Pain - something a bit more sing-a-long and anthem-y 7/10
14. You Belong to Me - do I spot a bit of a 70s R&B influence here, I quite like it and it's a bit different to the other stuff on the album but still very Carly Simon, I like the brass instrumental break 7.5/10
15. Jessie - a bit sassy for Carly Simon standards 6.5/10
16. Boys in the Trees - not necessarily an unusual song for the compilation but it does seem a bit darker and :( than some of the songs on the album, I imagine it will still grow on me 7/10
17. The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of - Was this on an underperforming budget early 90s Carly album? It sounds like it would be and not in a good way :( Pleasant but I don't think it pulls off what it's trying to here 4/10
18. Give Me All Night - I like the 80s production, it's more evident here than on the other songs which sound for the most part they could all be on her 70s output/commercial peak. Now this is very Laura Branigan 7/10
19. Love of My Life - Losing a bit of interest with this song, sounds like what I already heard in some of the other songs but more nondescript and generic. picks up a bit more toward the end but still very dull
"I like pumpernickel bread" wtf :D 2/10
20. Touched By the Sun - A nice closer and she sounds to be genuinely impassioned on it unlike a few of the previous which sound kind of phoned in, I like the 80s guitar solo, who's the male voice? 7/10

All in all, very pleased. It's a bit much to sit through all in one go but I can definitely see myself going back to it months and years from now to quite a few of the songs. "Coming Around Again", "That''s the Way..." and "Why" alone are incentive enough for that and I imagine a lot of it will still grow
 
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I've got quite a few of Carly's albums (not as many as VoR though - so I am sure he will keep you right) but from what you're saying I'd definitely stick with the 70s stuff which is where she is at her peak commercially and I'd say creatively too. I'd consider looking in to some of her 80s albums too, like "Coming Around Again", but to begin with the "No Secrets" and "Anticipation" albums are probably going to wet your appetite more.

Unfortunately, I don't actually think there is much to get your teeth in to in terms of her most recent output. "Into White" and "Moonlight Serenade" were very gimmicky and I can't say I've revisited either album since their release. "Never Been Gone" has some SHOCKING vocals on it, as she revisits her own material, so it's worth a LAUGH once you are familiar with some of the tracks.
 
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i love you're so vain, nobody does it better and carly's wonderfully horsey face too much
so it's weird i'd never investigated until now, but i recently got a gh off the back of finding out why is hers (i only ever heard it through a joey negro track a few months ago)

i'm rubbish
 
Nice one Pop, glad to hear you (mostly) enjoyed this. I definitely think a lot of those 6-7/10s will grow on you.

I think Love of My Life is quite sweet really, but I can see why you'd find it a bit treacly. Songs about babies usually are.

Touched By The Sun is amazing - for a bit of context it was written in the wake of her Breast cancer diagnosis shortly after two of her close friends died from it. The male vocalist is her son Ben Taylor, who's also a musician. I haven't heard any of his own stuff.

I'd get her 'Greatest Hits Live' next if you're interested. There's a lovely version of 'Coming Around Again' there, plus a couple of really good songs that aren't on Reflections (Two Hot Girls On A Hot Summer Night and Never Been Gone).

Studio albums-wise, I would recommend 'No Secrets' 'Boys In The Trees' 'Spy' and 'Coming Around Again' to start.

Here's a few of my other favourite songs of hers:

We're So Close - from Spy. One of the saddest songs EVER. If you liked That's The Way I've Always Heard It Should Be you'll love this. :(



Never Been Gone - Also from Spy, probably one of her best-loved songs.



You Know What To Do - from 'Hello Big Man'. A lot of her attempts at doing more modern synth pop were really quite embarassing, but this is quite good, and again very Laura Branigan.

 
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Oh and this version of Coming Around Again from the Live Greatest Hits is gorgeous.

 
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Has an interviewer ever displayed their hate to the interviewee SO WELL?



That guy really is relentless. Aside from the general condescending and sexist tone of the interviewer and intrusive questions he really digs in there with this:

"The James Taylor marriage of 1972. The marriage failed. WHY?"
 
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I'm having quite the reflective moment to "Coming Around Again"

I know nothing stays the same
But if you're willing to play the game
It will be coming around agaaiiiin

I'm still only familiar with the Greatest Hits (reflections or whatnot), I really should venture out
 
Coming Around Again is probably my favourite.

My favourite Carly story is when she shushed somebody behind her at a Joni Mitchell concert for calling out to Joni between songs. Said person sprung out of her seat, got Carly in a headlock and dragged her to the ground. That person was a drunk Chrissie Hynde, not the kind of person who should be shushed. I'm sure Carly wouldn't have done it had she looked behind her first.
 
God 'Coming Around Again' is beautiful.

And I believe in love,
What else can I do?
I'm so in love with you...
 
You're So Vain is always such a hit at karaoke parties. Even, or especially amongst millennials
 
I’ve recently become obsessed with Carly’s flop album “Spoiled Girl” from 1985, and have decided to dive headfirst into her entire catalogue.

Am I middle aged now?
 
I can't resist being MICK JAGGER on BVs when listening to YOU'RE SO VAIN

I BET YOU THINK THIS SONG IS ABOUT YOU DON'T YOU DON'T YOU DON'T YOU *pouts and wiggles arse*
 
So I've been in a huge Carly mood lately, particularly the Boys In The Trees and Coming Around Again albums. I've basically been rinsing her discography on Spotify!

2025 season C.S. Top 10 anyone?
 
I’ve recently become obsessed with Carly’s flop album “Spoiled Girl” from 1985, and have decided to dive headfirst into her entire catalogue.

Am I middle aged now?
So basically I'm Jiva SEVEN years ago!
 
1. Coming Around Again
2. Boys In The Trees
3. Haven’t Got Time For The Pain
4. We’re So Close
5. Why?
6. Anticipation
7. You’re So Vain
8. Touched By The Sun
9. Nobody Does It Better
10. That’s The Way I’ve Always Heard It Should Be
 


He says we’re beyond flowers
He says we’re beyond compliments
We’re so close, we can dispense with love
We don’t need love at all…

:(
 


My new boyfriend,
He loves the living daylights out of me
He springs a ladder to the moon
He sings the far side of the tune
He's a driven, silver lover
He can swim under the covers
He's a high, gold bouncing lover
He's a diver and a dreamer
He's a dolphin in the ocean
He's a rival of Orion


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Shout out also to this utterly ludicrous melodrama which is basically an episode of Real Housewives of New York set to music.



I wonder if Carly’s ever been to BLUE STONE MANOR?
 

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