Coronavirus

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Are you worried about contracting coronavirus?

  • Yes, I am absolutely terrified

    Votes: 12 15.6%

  • Yes, I am slightly concerned

    Votes: 35 45.5%

  • I am neither concerned or unconcerned

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • No, I am slightly unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • No, I am totally unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • Bring back the old poll

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Charlotte Awbrey tits out doing the Macarena

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • I believe VoR is evil

    Votes: 11 14.3%
  • Total voters
    77
We had an issue last September/October when work decided to start having face to face meetings again. I was one of about 5 of a team of about 35 who objected to it, and we were allowed to attend by zoom, even though IT issues then prevented us joining.

About 10 people on the team were requesting group meetings again though, as they said they were feeling increasingly isolated.

My argument is that although we are all essential workers, attending the meeting in person wasn't essential, and therefore we shouldn't have the meetings, but work carried on having them until Lockdown II.
 
The lolly and the ivy said:
We had an issue last September/October when work decided to start having face to face meetings again. I was one of about 5 of a team of about 35 who objected to it, and we were allowed to attend by zoom, even though IT issues then prevented us joining.

About 10 people on the team were requesting group meetings again though, as they said they were feeling increasingly isolated.
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It's a tough balance. I know your meetings would have been risk assessed and so deemed safe as such but I would have been the same as you. I think people should be given the choice if a risk assessment says its safe to carry on. If people want to meet face to face then fair enough, but equally the option of joining by zoom etc should be just as valid.
 
Star said:
Fair enough. Perhaps if I didn't have children I might feel different, but I now at this age they rely on me and I can't fathom doing anything that could put me at risk of not being able to look after them, no matter how tiny the risk is.
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Can I be honest? I worry about you, because I feel whilst it's entirely right to have fear, your fear seems, just through what I've seen on here, to be out of proportion. But then, who the hell am I to say that? Maybe it's the kid thing, you're right, but the overwhelming likelihood is you'd get sick and not die and, like most healthy people of your age, be ok. It's fucking easy for me to say, but the worrying is going to be as detrimental to your health as the actual disease...
 
Star said:
It's a tough balance. I know your meetings would have been risk assessed and so deemed safe as such but I would have been the same as you. I think people should be given the choice if a risk assessment says its safe to carry on. If people want to meet face to face then fair enough, but equally the option of joining by zoom etc should be just as valid.
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Yes, everything has been risk assessed - in fairness work have been pretty good at that. But it's never completely safe, is it - so why put staff to that risk? I accept the risk for when I have to go to surgery (and in my case, public transport there), but I have to physically be at that place to work. I don't have to physically be at that meeting.
 
Sheena said:
Can I be honest? I worry about you, because I feel whilst it's entirely right to have fear, your fear seems, just through what I've seen on here, to be out of proportion. But then, who the hell am I to say that? Maybe it's the kid thing, you're right, but the overwhelming likelihood is you'd get sick and not die and, like most healthy people of your age, be ok. It's fucking easy for me to say, but the worrying is going to be as detrimental to your health as the actual disease...
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This just highlights the problem though, doesn't it? We're all doing what feels 'safe' or 'acceptable' to us. And we all have different standards.
 
Sheena said:
Can I be honest? I worry about you, because I feel whilst it's entirely right to have fear, your fear seems, just through what I've seen on here, to be out of proportion. But then, who the hell am I to say that? Maybe it's the kid thing, you're right, but the overwhelming likelihood is you'd get sick and not die and, like most healthy people of your age, be ok. It's fucking easy for me to say, but the worrying is going to be as detrimental to your health as the actual disease...
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I totally get why I'm coming across as a loon :D I think it's just the scientist in me. I do live in a perfectionist world and just see how we could have avoided this becoming so bad.

Generally I feel safe as I'm not putting myself at risk. Obviously work is another matter but again I'd say I'm the most proactive in keeping safe there too. And my concerns that have been raised have been addressed to an extent. I just hate the thought of people coming in thinking it's a safe environment and I don't think it is, I might be fine dolled up in my ppe but most of them don't have that and fall into the vulnerable category.

I just want things better, and again I can see an end in sight. Being stuck at home is mentally and physically exhausting me, but I really wouldn't say the worrying about catching it is affecting me that much.
 
The lolly and the ivy said:
This just highlights the problem though, doesn't it? We're all doing what feels 'safe' or 'acceptable' to us. And we all have different standards.
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Absolutely- hence what I said. And note I didn't say that Star should suddenly be ignoring the rules or being less safe. It's just that the whole anxiety and stress of catching it is REALLY fucking detrimental to people, particularly when there's so much other shit going on right now. How you deal with that, I don't know.
 
Star said:
I totally get why I'm coming across as a loon :D I think it's just the scientist in me. I do live in a perfectionist world and just see how we could have avoided this becoming so bad.

Generally I feel safe as I'm not putting myself at risk. Obviously work is another matter but again I'd say I'm the most proactive in keeping safe there too. And my concerns that have been raised have been addressed to an extent. I just hate the thought of people coming in thinking it's a safe environment and I don't think it is, I might be fine dolled up in my ppe but most of them don't have that and fall into the vulnerable category.

I just want things better, and again I can see an end in sight. Being stuck at home is mentally and physically exhausting me, but I really wouldn't say the worrying about catching it is affecting me that much.
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Then maybe I've misread it. Totally understand being stuck at home as mentally exhausting. The worrying about catching it is what I've felt from your posts. Glad that's not the case.
 
Sheena said:
Then maybe I've misread it. Totally understand being stuck at home as mentally exhausting. The worrying about catching it is what I've felt from your posts. Glad that's not the case.
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Thank you for the concern though, it's genuinely nice to know someone is looking out for you! X
 
I haven't changed my option on the poll. I'm not so worried about me having Covid as I think I'd be OK, but rather passing it to Mr R as he's in a vulnerable group (transplant recipient). This is the aspect that I've really struggled with.
 
The lolly and the ivy said:
We had an issue last September/October when work decided to start having face to face meetings again. I was one of about 5 of a team of about 35 who objected to it, and we were allowed to attend by zoom, even though IT issues then prevented us joining.

About 10 people on the team were requesting group meetings again though, as they said they were feeling increasingly isolated.

My argument is that although we are all essential workers, attending the meeting in person wasn't essential, and therefore we shouldn't have the meetings, but work carried on having them until Lockdown II.
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At least your AWAY DAY got cancelled.
 
Suedey Baby said:
Most people don't have the fear factor anymore. It was there during the first lockdown but not anymore.
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I lost the fear factor because I was managing to do stuff (all generally within the rules) without catching it. All of the evidence seemed to be pointing towards outside being okay, so whenever i’ve met up with others in the last few months, it has been exclusively in outdoor settings.

However, the fear is now back, because of a few things:
1. The new strain and how quickly and easily it appears to be spreading - I am no longer sure of what is and isn’t safe
2. Where I live - London is bad enough but my borough is APPALLING atm and apparently my local hospital (The Royal London) has had ambulances queued up outside. I saw photographers when I walked past the other day.
3. The rates of compliance with rules are just piss poor. The only time i’m indoors for any lengthy of time outside of the house is the supermarket and there are so many people just not fucking wearing masks. I went on New Years Eve because the fridge was empty and it was HELL but I think I am going to restrict my trips to pretty late at night for the foreseeable.

I’m not scared of dying myself - more of being essentially disabled by long COVID because of some prick in Sainsburys. Also passing it onto my flatmate who has chronic heart problems and WILL end up in hospital if they get it without a doubt. They are a frontline support worker and have still been having to go and see clients face-to-face as cases have been rising and many won’t wear masks even though my flatmate could literally die. Their work needs to take more responsibility, to be honest.
 
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The local primary school here has this afternoon decided to have an inset day tomorrow to give them time to make an informed decision.
 
This forcing the schools back almost randomly is an absolute disgrace. It'll be classic Tory - they'll send them back for 2 or 3 days, then U-turn, once damage has been done. I'm really reaching the level of anger with this government that, even in March, I didn't think was possible. It's like they're not really trying to prevent the spread at all and all the suppositions or conspiracy theories about culling the disabled are actually true.
 
A lot of parents sharing this on Facebook

To those parents planning to keep your children home from Tuesday, if you feel able to, please let your schools know it is due to concerns around safety. We must make it clear that parents support and trust the judgement of our teachers. Our teachers have stuck their necks out for our kids, putting themselves and their families at great personal risk since this pandemic started. Now our teachers are taking a stand against this reckless government by invoking Section 44 of the Employment Rights Act 1996 - the right not to be forced to work in unsafe conditions. Let’s stand together and make it clear that our children are not laboratory rats and neither are our teachers! #makeschoolssafe
 
YES, the facebook mums are extolling workers rights :disco:

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Have we heard much about how this new strain is hitting other countries? Or does it seem to be largely confined to the UK?
 
I think imported cases are the LEAST of our worries right now, that horse has well and truly BOLTED. Does any country have a transmission level close to ours right now? Only California seems as fucked as we are right now.
 
The American link is confusing as it it’s average daily cases, averaged over the previous 7 days I THINK.
 
One MIGHT think that the US government is being purposely misleading.

California is even more fucked than I thought. Even Georgia, not the darkest color, has higher cases than the UK then. You would never know from how everything here is open as normal
 
The lolly and the ivy said:
We had an issue last September/October when work decided to start having face to face meetings again. I was one of about 5 of a team of about 35 who objected to it, and we were allowed to attend by zoom, even though IT issues then prevented us joining.

About 10 people on the team were requesting group meetings again though, as they said they were feeling increasingly isolated.

My argument is that although we are all essential workers, attending the meeting in person wasn't essential, and therefore we shouldn't have the meetings, but work carried on having them until Lockdown II.
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We have slowly reduced face-to-face meetings down to all online, as much as anything for political reasons. There's 10 of us on senior leadership and we were spread over a double classroom and sitting in two separate bubbles, but we just felt it LOOKED BAD to be having face-to-face meetings when we could all be meeting from our separate offices.

It is bizarre though, because 10 minutes earlier I'll be in a single classroom, with 30 students, all of them sat shoulder-to-shoulder.
 
Is anyone actually enforcing it though? Even in the Spring/Summer lockdown it was better but my local roads were just crawling with groups of teenagers hanging out together. Even closing the schools won’t stop that.
 
So in Scotland "People will only be allowed to leave [home] for essential reasons."

However "a maximum of two people from two households will be allowed to meet outdoors".

How is this different from now? Is it literally just the fact that it will now be legally enforceable?
 
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