Coronavirus

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Are you worried about contracting coronavirus?

  • Yes, I am absolutely terrified

    Votes: 12 15.6%

  • Yes, I am slightly concerned

    Votes: 35 45.5%

  • I am neither concerned or unconcerned

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • No, I am slightly unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • No, I am totally unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • Bring back the old poll

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Charlotte Awbrey tits out doing the Macarena

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • I believe VoR is evil

    Votes: 11 14.3%
  • Total voters
    77
I don’t want to be all doom and gloom in here and I promise I won’t make a habit of it but I’d rather post this here than talk about it with my family - am I overreacting for feeling that the virus is winning at the moment and nobody is really talking about it because of all the “normality?”

It’s great that daily cases haven’t peaked at 100k a day and don’t look like they’re going to, but this stagnation is making me feel rather uneasy and I know we’re supposed to “live with” this, but surely this “background noise” of 20-40k cases a day is going to be unacceptable for some people to live with, my parents included?

What is the point of having a vaccine that makes you a tenth as likely to come down with serious illness if you’re ten times more likely to run into someone with Covid?

We now know that herd immunity is all but impossible with Delta, and surely Covid is likely to cook up an even worse variant before we manage to get an improved vaccine.

Sorry I just woke up this morning with a bit of a “where do we go from here?” resignation really. I’m fine but I feel so worried for my parents and other people who just feel they cannot risk going back to normality with the way things are.
 
Pingu said:
I don’t want to be all doom and gloom in here and I promise I won’t make a habit of it but I’d rather post this here than talk about it with my family - am I overreacting for feeling that the virus is winning at the moment and nobody is really talking about it because of all the “normality?”

It’s great that daily cases haven’t peaked at 100k a day and don’t look like they’re going to, but this stagnation is making me feel rather uneasy and I know we’re supposed to “live with” this, but surely this “background noise” of 20-40k cases a day is going to be unacceptable for some people to live with, my parents included?

What is the point of having a vaccine that makes you a tenth as likely to come down with serious illness if you’re ten times more likely to run into someone with Covid?

We now know that herd immunity is all but impossible with Delta, and surely Covid is likely to cook up an even worse variant before we manage to get an improved vaccine.

Sorry I just woke up this morning with a bit of a “where do we go from here?” resignation really. I’m fine but I feel so worried for my parents and other people who just feel they cannot risk going back to normality with the way things are.
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I think this a perfectly realistic outlook, if probably on the more pessimistic side of things? I'm not sure "1/10 as likely to get really sick vs 10x more likely to run into someone with Covid" holds up in terms of maths and stochastics but I get your point either way.

I guess I'm less stressed about it right now as I'm living in a country that has been in a relative lull of new cases in June and July. But we'll be in the same place as the UK in a month the way things are going, sadly.
 
I did my first 'thing' since early 2020 on Thursday - I had lunch with a friend in a restaurant. I couldn't believe how disinterested some people were re: masks. Half the staff were wandering about without them, leaning in on the punters and asking if everything was OK. I know it's allowed now but it really freaked me out. Some people really think it's "over".
 
That's what concerns me octy

I get that we have to "live with it" but some people just act like they're living without it
 
When I talk to people, I think there's more of an acknowledgement that it isn't over, rather that it's something we need to live with. But their behaviour is more like it's over, rather than taking very simple, painless precautions.

And I think the use of the term 'Freedom Day' has an awful lot to answer for in that respect.
 
Pingu said:
I don’t want to be all doom and gloom in here and I promise I won’t make a habit of it but I’d rather post this here than talk about it with my family - am I overreacting for feeling that the virus is winning at the moment and nobody is really talking about it because of all the “normality?”

It’s great that daily cases haven’t peaked at 100k a day and don’t look like they’re going to, but this stagnation is making me feel rather uneasy and I know we’re supposed to “live with” this, but surely this “background noise” of 20-40k cases a day is going to be unacceptable for some people to live with, my parents included?

What is the point of having a vaccine that makes you a tenth as likely to come down with serious illness if you’re ten times more likely to run into someone with Covid?

We now know that herd immunity is all but impossible with Delta, and surely Covid is likely to cook up an even worse variant before we manage to get an improved vaccine.

Sorry I just woke up this morning with a bit of a “where do we go from here?” resignation really. I’m fine but I feel so worried for my parents and other people who just feel they cannot risk going back to normality with the way things are.
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i don’t know if it helps, and I know Apoca has already said the numbers aren’t quite like that, but it’s not as bad as it sounds.

it’s not like lottery balls or something, where the expected number of cases of serious illness would stay constant in that scenario

If you are ten times more likely to meet someone with Covid AND you get it but it’s not serious, you don’t just start from a clean slate the next time you meet a carrier. I don’t think it’s usual for people to catch Covid multiple times is it?
 
It’s the vaccine not being quite as effective for some who were vaccinated earlier in the year that gets me. I know boosters will be getting rolled out next month, but they can only do so many at a time. Are we likely to get an overlap?
 
Has it been proven that more people are being hospitalised or dying who were vaccinated earlier?
 
lolly said:
Has it been proven that more people are being hospitalised or dying who were vaccinated earlier?
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Not that I know of, no. We also don’t have any concrete answers to how long the vaccine lasts for though.
 
I imagine they will divert resources away from vaccinating 16 and 17 year olds if there is evidence to suggest the most vulnerable need boosters.
 
It’s really difficult to say with any certainly too as obviously the first ones to be vaccinated were the very elderly and vulnerable who are more likely to be hospitalised to begin with.
 
Pingu said:
It’s really difficult to say with any certainly too as obviously the first ones to be vaccinated were the very elderly and vulnerable who are more likely to be hospitalised to begin with.
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Yes, but presumably you will see it tracking up if it is the case. And there will also be the essential workers who had it early.
 
Pingu said:
I don’t want to be all doom and gloom in here and I promise I won’t make a habit of it but I’d rather post this here than talk about it with my family - am I overreacting for feeling that the virus is winning at the moment and nobody is really talking about it because of all the “normality?”

It’s great that daily cases haven’t peaked at 100k a day and don’t look like they’re going to, but this stagnation is making me feel rather uneasy and I know we’re supposed to “live with” this, but surely this “background noise” of 20-40k cases a day is going to be unacceptable for some people to live with, my parents included?

What is the point of having a vaccine that makes you a tenth as likely to come down with serious illness if you’re ten times more likely to run into someone with Covid?

We now know that herd immunity is all but impossible with Delta, and surely Covid is likely to cook up an even worse variant before we manage to get an improved vaccine.

Sorry I just woke up this morning with a bit of a “where do we go from here?” resignation really. I’m fine but I feel so worried for my parents and other people who just feel they cannot risk going back to normality with the way things are.
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Understandable...

Anecdotally I'm not hearing much in the way of anyone struggling or dying with it any more. Whilst I think it is here to stay, I also think it's probably just going to turn into another cold. At this point we're counting cases, and counting people who "died after testing positive" with it - denialist stuff previously, but perhaps true now.
 
The new lateral flow tests are much less evil. You just poke it around your nostrils, no shoving it up into your BRAIN or testing your gag reflex on your tonsils.

In other news, has anyone actually had their NHS Covid Pass scanned yet? I've been asked for it four times now, and they just look at the QR code and go "OK fine". Fairly pointless.
 
As in, they look at it with their human eyes? That sounds reliable.
 
Kate said:
The new lateral flow tests are much less evil. You just poke it around your nostrils, no shoving it up into your BRAIN or testing your gag reflex on your tonsils.

In other news, has anyone actually had their NHS Covid Pass scanned yet? I've been asked for it four times now, and they just look at the QR code and go "OK fine". Fairly pointless.
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What new tests? My packs are still the same.

Ive got a few theatre shows booked and only one upcoming one requires a pass. Right now I can’t generate the code unless I have a negative LFT within 48 hours. Waiting for the 14 days after second jab to kick in so it can become a bit more permanent, but so far 6 days later the vaccine isn’t showing up on my NHS app at all. I’ll get worried if it’s not there after 14 days.

I’m going back to the office for 2-3 days a week from next week anyway and they’re asking for regular LFTs from us all regardless of vaccine status.
 
Kate said:
In other news, has anyone actually had their NHS Covid Pass scanned yet? I've been asked for it four times now, and they just look at the QR code and go "OK fine". Fairly pointless.
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For my summer holidays I left from Paris to Treviso then traveled around by car through Italy, Slovenia, Austria and Croatia. I got asked for my vaccine pass twice. Once at the Croatian border and once at a lake beach in Austria :) nothing at any of the airports in France or Italy :)
 
I've got the new version LFTs too. I hope they stay that way forever. Even the test result plastic thing is slightly sexier.
 
I don’t think I even have a COVID pass, unless it’s the card they give you when you get your vaccination?
 
Ellie said:
What new tests? My packs are still the same.

Ive got a few theatre shows booked and only one upcoming one requires a pass. Right now I can’t generate the code unless I have a negative LFT within 48 hours. Waiting for the 14 days after second jab to kick in so it can become a bit more permanent, but so far 6 days later the vaccine isn’t showing up on my NHS app at all. I’ll get worried if it’s not there after 14 days.

I’m going back to the office for 2-3 days a week from next week anyway and they’re asking for regular LFTs from us all regardless of vaccine status.
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Soldi said:
I don’t think I even have a COVID pass, unless it’s the card they give you when you get your vaccination?
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Neither do I? I wouldn’t even know how to get one as I didn’t even get a card when I got my vaccines?
 
Rita said:
Neither do I? I wouldn’t even know how to get one as I didn’t even get a card when I got my vaccines?
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Did you not get a card that whoever gave you the jab signed off both times? You had to keep it to show at your second vaccination.

But considering I got my second shot in MARCH I presume my COVID pass is lost in the post :eyes:
 
Your Covid Pass is on the NHS app (NOT the NHS Covid-19 app). You create an account with your NHS number and stuff, and it will have your vaccination records stored. Then there's a link to "Get your NHS Covid Pass" which generates the QR code. It also works if you've done an LFT within the last 48 hours and logged the result on the NHS website.
 
Rita said:
Neither do I? I wouldn’t even know how to get one as I didn’t even get a card when I got my vaccines?
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The card was certainly useful to log what batch you had since there have been some issues with certain batch numbers.

Not sure how it works in Scotland though, but so long as you have the NHS app in England and Wales (not the track and trace one) it generates for you.
 
Soldi said:
Did you not get a card that whoever gave you the jab signed off both times? You had to keep it to show at your second vaccination.

But considering I got my second shot in MARCH I presume my COVID pass is lost in the post :eyes:
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No, I didn’t get a card after either vaccine?
 
Kate said:
Your Covid Pass is on the NHS app (NOT the NHS Covid-19 app). You create an account with your NHS number and stuff, and it will have your vaccination records stored. Then there's a link to "Get your NHS Covid Pass" which generates the QR code. It also works if you've done an LFT within the last 48 hours and logged the result on the NHS website.
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So the pass expires, and then you have to have another LFT to generate another QR code?
 
Kate said:
Only if you've not been double vaxxed.
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Sorry, so if you're double vaxxed it's permanent?

I wasn't going to bother downloading it until I needed it (thinking I'd have to take LFTs for it to be of any use), but I may as well get it now.
 
lolly said:
Sorry, so if you're double vaxxed it's permanent?

I wasn't going to bother downloading it until I needed it (thinking I'd have to take LFTs for it to be of any use), but I may as well get it now.
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If you're double vaxxed you have to generate a new code every month as they do have an expiry date. If you're not it only lasts 48 hours, but if you have an iPhone you can add it to your Apple Wallet.
 
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