Do you own your own home?

It's my house, and I live here...


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One of my friends has a dad who moved to America and re-married. He’s quite well off over there, but instead of helping his son, he sold his London home in a quick transaction to the local council for much less than it was worth and didn’t give him a penny.

Honestly, the mind boggles. While my parents aren’t in a position to help me out, I know if they were, they would.
My friend was buying a house and went to his parents for help, and they offered him a loan with terms worse than the banks, and it blew my mind. They were in a position, as far as I could tell, to help without even expecting the money back, but to charge their own son interest was insanity to me.
 
If you are able to make it work, getting on the property market as soon as possible is never a bad move, even if you rent it out so you can go live your life elsewhere.

It shouldn't work like that, I hasten to add, but at the moment the goalposts for property ownership are moving constantly and gets harder and harder as time passes. And it doesn't seem like that is changing any time soon.

Yep.

To @Soldi's point, I probably could have owned a home by now if I'd lived like a nun for the past decade, but I don't regret a single one of the holidays I've taken (or will continue to take when it becomes possible again). They're precious life moments that I can never get back. I feel that more acutely than ever in a post-COVID world.

But you're right that if it's do-able without sacrificing any semblance of a social life, it's never a bad idea.
 
I guess if you have no ambitions outside of working your way up a career and a property ladder then its fine. But its not for me.

Like I say, Thatcher's legacy - home as status symbol rather than just a place to live.
 
I guess my main priorities for wanting to own at this point in my life are

* Prospect of some financial security when I'm older
* Fear that if I don't do it relatively soon it'll start to get a lot harder to get on the ladder
* I want a dog! (I know I could just move to a dog friendly rental but I've reached a point where I can't be arsed with the faff of a whole move if it's not going to be to my own place, and paradoxically I don't want to take on the added expense of a dog before I've sorted the mortgage thing)

So it really is mostly psychological. We are so conditioned to feel like we need this stuff.
 
True, but also landlords are cunts and don't deserve your money.

Absolutely, I think there should be limits on home ownership to be honest. I've refused to rent of a 'professional' landlord since we've been in the UK, more owners with a spare house.

Like I say, Thatcher's legacy - home as status symbol rather than just a place to live.

Yeah it's very much that. My parents generation seem to be obsessed with home ownership. I don't want to commit to a 35 life sentence just to have a pile of bricks to show for it. I want to have lived a full, rich and exciting life. So that's what I'm doing.
 
We're looking at buying a rundown finca in Spain somewhere because 1) its not fucking ridiculous 2) It means I have something exciting to do while we have to let Ron Jr go to school with some degree of stability and 3) 7 bedrooms for €35k - keep your £400k mortgage :D
 
I did manage it entirely on my own, but it needed the combination of a good salary and renting somewhere cheaper than ideal for a good number of years to save up the deposit/SDLT.
 
Also fwiw I managed it on my own, but I was very lucky in that I had a bit of a business venture do well and ended up with a £30k deposit fairly quickly. I ended up losing it all because the market dropped its arse. It seems so fucking wild gambling such huge sums of money on something so volatile when you could easily put that type of cash into much more secure investments.
 
My parents generation seem to be obsessed with home ownership. I don't want to commit to a 35 life sentence just to have a pile of bricks to show for it. I want to have lived a full, rich and exciting life. So that's what I'm doing.
Boomers are SO OBSESSED with it! My mum has asked me twice in the last two weeks whether a friend of mine she's never met is planning to buy soon, just because I mentioned that she moved out to Surbiton and we went to visit her.
 
I don’t see it happening unless I leave Hackney (NOT HAPPENING) my parents die (REALLY DON’T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN) or I stumble on a rich boyfriend (most likely, but still, PRETTY UNLIKELY)

The goal right now is just to earn enough to rent a decent 1 bed, which I’m still a few years off.
 
I don’t see it happening unless I leave Hackney (NOT HAPPENING) my parents die (REALLY DON’T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN) or I stumble on a rich boyfriend (most likely, but still, PRETTY UNLIKELY)
This is it.

My god I’m just remembering when one of my friends - whose parents gave her the deposit money for a mortgage - told me how I’d really “lucked out” meeting my partner because he already had a mortgage. I could have flipped the table!

Real Housewives GIF
 
We're looking at buying a rundown finca in Spain somewhere because 1) its not fucking ridiculous 2) It means I have something exciting to do while we have to let Ron Jr go to school with some degree of stability and 3) 7 bedrooms for €35k - keep your £400k mortgage :D
Something like this here would easily end up costing 5 times the initial cost or maybe more with the renovations that it would take and to make it compliant with current anti-seismic and property regulations and other expenses, depending on the accessibility of the place (transporting building material to islands or remote villages or medieval citadels that don't have proper road connections to the actual property also increase the cost a lot) so always check with real locals other than the real estate agents if you are looking to buy property abroad.
 
I moved back in with my parents for a few years after uni (I did pay keep though) and was very careful with money so managed to put a bit aside for a deposit. No way i’d have been able to buy with that deposit down south though !
 
I'm very fortunate to own my own home. However, a large part of the reason I can afford to own is because property on the Isle of Wight was ridiculously cheap when we bought our flat 8 years ago.

We have a large, 2 double bedroom flat in a Georgian building, top floor, sea views and parking, and it only cost us £83,000.

Meaning our mortgage repayments are only £290 a month, which wouldn't even get is a bed sit if we rented.

I feel for people who can't get a mortgage because they can't save the deposit, especially as rent is so expensive now days!
 
Yes but I don’t live in it. Hoping to buy again in about a years time.
 
I want to but I’m not actively working towards it because I don’t make enough. I’m waiting for us to sell our house back home and hoping that when the money is split I will have enough for a deposit.

For me I guess it’s something I’ve been conditioned to think of as a goal. I also want security for when I’m older (in case I don’t die).
 
Something like this here would easily end up costing 5 times the initial cost or maybe more with the renovations that it would take and to make it compliant with current anti-seismic and property regulations and other expenses, depending on the accessibility of the place (transporting building material to islands or remote villages or medieval citadels that don't have proper road connections to the actual property also increase the cost a lot) so always check with real locals other than the real estate agents if you are looking to buy property abroad.

I'm trying to rope my folks in because they did it in France so will keep us in check in terms of knowing the budget and work involved, plus having lived in Spain for a few years I picked up a bit of understanding how things work, at least enough to know that I should expect a load of fucking drama :D
 
I've never understood the 'security' justification. You're only as secure as your paycheck. I have no ties and could live in my van. Thats security.
 
I do own, but there's two of us, and it's a mortgage in its early days still I guess and we had the bare minimum of a deposit. It was 5%. We had no financial support from parents or other relatives, none of them are in a position to do that, and neither of us will inherit anything. What we did have which admittedly was lucky, was about £5k that my partner got back from being overtaxed on his uni fees or something ridiculous. But at the time we were doing those help to buy isas, so even without that, we 100% still would have got there on our own, albeit a couple of years later. Everyone else I know 100% got support from their parents in a massive way, and even those who aren't on the ladder are likely to inherit at some point. We knew that was never going to happen to us, so we had to go for it. But yes obviously I'm grateful for that tax refund getting us there a TINY bit quicker.

But it's a long road and it's really not been easy at all. There's still SO much to pay, the interest is disgusting, and the house is chock full of problems that we naively had no idea about and have zero capabilities of sorting out ourselves. We've had to get loans. We need more, we can't get them yet. Shit needs fixing badly. You think you're doing okay, and them bam - there goes over £2k on the boiler and you're back to square one. My partner earns more than me, but we are very average earners really, and it's the south east so everything is expensive. By the time everything is paid off, if we even get there, you often wonder what state you'll be in health wise, to the point you have to weigh up if "playing the game" for decades is really worth more than just living your life.

Definitely not knocking it, and I'm grateful for all the positives (we can do what we want to it, no one's gonna kick us out, the value might go up etc) but it's 100% not the be all and end all of life.
 
I've never understood the 'security' justification. You're only as secure as your paycheck. I have no ties and could live in my van. Thats security.

Some people (me) aren’t as flexible as that. Good for you if you can just go with the flow but I don’t have that capacity.
 
Yes. I didn’t until I got married though, and never stayed in one place long enough in my early to mid twenties to want to buy. I am lucky enough to own my property outright mainly because of a hefty divorce pay out. If I am honest though I would rather have the money in the bank, BUT I know I would probably waste it so I have invested in property so my children have security when I die.
 
My friend is always a bit bemused when I say I can't afford to randomly go on holiday with her (you know, to quick break destinations like JAPAN) as I think in her head I'm "on the ladder" now.

This friend's dad is a millionaire, who built her house and she doesn't have to work! Relatable.
 
If I didn’t have children I’m not sure I would bother tbh and would be quite happy to sell up and SPEND SPEND SPEND.
 
Our deposit was just under £2000.

Made the decision to buy with a friend. We were both living with parents, on crap salaries and still managed to save it in six months.
 
Our deposit was just under £2000.

Made the decision to buy with a friend. We were both living with parents, on crap salaries and still managed to save it in six months.
WOAH
The way prices have gone in Bristol is insane. My sister rented for a while but was just too expensive to buy so went back to Glos
 
WOAH
The way prices have gone in Bristol is insane. My sister rented for a while but was just too expensive to buy so went back to Glos
We're renting out Mr L's mother's old house for £1100 a month. It's a two bedroom terrace in not a particularly nice area (Bedminster).

Who the fuck can afford to save for a deposit if you're paying that in rent?
 
What’s the difference between “no” and “no but I’m actively working towards it”?

I don’t have any actual plans I’m working towards, but I do try to save money for a theoretical house in the future. I just hate throwing away money in rent.

houses in Atlanta are fairly cheap, but the prices are increasing pretty rapidly. I could probably buy a house in rural Georgia now, but I would never want to do that
 
What’s the difference between “no” and “no but I’m actively working towards it”?

I don’t have any actual plans I’m working towards, but I do try to save money for a theoretical house in the future. I just hate throwing away money in rent.

houses in Atlanta are fairly cheap, but the prices are increasing pretty rapidly. I could probably buy a house in rural Georgia now, but I would never want to do that

As I'm the only one who selected that option you're right, I'll get rid for the sake of a clearer poll.
 
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We're renting out Mr L's mother's old house for £1100 a month. It's a two bedroom terrace in not a particularly nice area (Bedminster).

Who the fuck can afford to save for a deposit if you're paying that in rent?
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My rent is higher than a mortgage would be in the same neighborhood, which makes it hard to save
 

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