Doctor Who (2023-2025)

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I wonder if they're keeping much of it under wraps for spoiler reasons, OR because it's turned out shit and they don't want us to know in advance
 
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I saw someone theorise that maybe the majority of the episode is format-breaking in a way they really can't show in advance, like that it's presented through the medium of PUPPETS or something :disco:
 
Just watched Unleashed, I'm amazed by just how much of the Meep was puppetry and animatronics!
 
I really enjoyed Unleashed - I'd not quite realised how much I'd missed that kind of behind the scenes programming for this show.

I'm now watching the episode with the commentary on, which I very much HAD missed and am delighted it's now going to be a thing on iPlayer*. It's like I'm back in 2007 going through all the commentaries on my Who DVDs: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episo...o-commentaries-the-star-beast-with-commentary

*for select episodes only www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/doctor-who-in-vision-commentary-to-land-in-the-whoniverse
 
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I like it overall - but yes the kitchen sink has been thrown in, towards the end in particular.

I'm waiting for the opening titles. The RTD opening titles were perfect and everything since has been a dog's dinner to varying degrees.
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To follow up, I am VERY HAPPY with these opening titles. Easily the best since the initial RTD era

 
Summoning wise ratings elder @lolly for his insight, but this looks to be a great overnight figure for a drama in 2023. Maybe the biggest of the year outside of Happy Valley?

 
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Yes, I'd say that's a strong showing in the overnights. I don't think it's out of the question that it could add around another 2m over the week, either.

It seems to have been warmly received from what I've seen on social media.
 
Just comparing to the ratings for the 2022 specials - but these figures all include 7 day catch up. The figure in brackets was the position in that week's chart.

4.299m Eve Of The Daleks (10)
3.465m Legend Of The Sea Devils (15)
5.295m The Power Of The Doctor (5)
 
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Also for comparison, the best performing show on catch up over the week in the chart I posted this week was Shetland, with 2.040m.

I guess a big question for Doctor Who is how many people tuned in for it live purposely as event TV, which i suspect is high - and so will that impact the audience who need to catch up, but I still think it will perform well.
 
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I enjoyed that. Total nonsense of course, but RTD pulls off nonsense so much better than his (pre)successors
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I think that was my biggest takeaway from the whole thing.

Yes, reuniting David Tennant and Catherine Tate was a massive part of the appeal. Even so, at heart, it was a nonsense plot resolved (again) with a proverbial reset button but presented with a steady string of emotional beats that I just feel has been missing. If RTD can continue that beyond the specials, I think it'll be exactly what the show needs.

I was tempted to say the show has veered into taking itself far too seriously over the last few years, but I don't necessarily think that's true. If anything, last night was simply a reminder of how much Doctor Who relies on chemistry and dynamic. That, for me, is what the more recent series' lacked.

Also, it's not a complaint as such, but were we really supposed to believe Rose is 14 (or at most 15) years old?! :D It wasn't explicitly stated, but they did mention several times how it had been 15 years since Donna's mind was wiped. I don't remember it ever being mentioned she was pregnant during The End Of Time, but even so! I know Yasmin Finney plays a school-age teenager in Heartstopper, but it's less noticeable when all the main cast are playing characters 4 - 5 years younger than their real ages. Here, though, it just seemed bizarre to keep reiterating the timeframe in which Rose had been born and drawing attention to the fact.
 
The Meep is so Disney and toyetic :D

Also called it from the first second that it was actually a baddie

I'm not mad though, that was a great return to the Doctor Who of old. Having just been watching RTD's golden age, it is literally just like rewinding 15 years and watching the next episode.
 
Oh this was a lot of fun ! Much needed silliness and camp after recent years.
 
Really really enjoyed this. The chemistry of the leads was great as expected (though not quite what it was in 2010). Jacqueline King is underrated as Sylvia too - was always overshadowed by Cribbins obviously.

I didn't even think twice about the trans thing and then obviously saw every TERF sympathiser shitting themselves about it online when reading reviews just now. Why are they so so easily triggered? :D
 
I had seen a leak about the Rose stuff and it presented it in quite an unflattering light - that the influence from the Doctor and the metacrisis MADE her trans/NB - which I don't think was how it came across on screen at all (more that her being trans allowed her to better accept the passed-on metacrisis due to the Doctor's unique relationship with gender).
 
I love that it pisses off TERFs.. fuck them (and that Tennant said similar about them to a fan)

Heard a fair share of complaints about how it was done but as far as I know this was from other well-meaning allies, I'm not sure how the trans community themselves received it except that Finney was hyped for it.
 
Ugh I just sat down to watch this and remembered it’s moved to Disney+.
Off to the dark web it is then!
 
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No but really, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING with this?
 
Every time I see Catherine Tate as the DoctorDonna/Metacrisis Doctor I think to myself I wish she'd been the first female Doctor - she'd have done it so much more effectively than Jodie. She is just marvellous when she gets into the flow of the Doctor's character.
 
There had been a rumour about Davina, funny that she's finally in the show properly after voicing a robot of herself back in series one :D
 
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No but really, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING with this?
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The more I think about it, it would've worked so much better if he'd delivered this scene walking around the TARDIS - but of course they couldn't do that since it would ruin the reveal later in the episode. Maybe they could've had him walking down a random London (Cardiff) street instead?
 
Maybe it's actually better to break the 4th wall this way rather than have him wandering about talking to the audience like Lovejoy or something

It's out of place, so might as well make it LOOK out of place.
 
I had no idea that forgotten Liza Tarbuck sitcom Linda Green played a vital part in the Who revival :shock:
 
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