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Don't mind if she calls it what she likes - give me a stan who can drop Ne partez pas sans moi as a favourite at the drop of a hat over someone else frankly :disco:
 
A ticket announcement is incoming on the latest episode of Eurovisioncast (the BBC Sounds podcast) tomorrow.
 
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So will I be able to get good tickets because I’ve got a Ukrainian refugee living with me?
 
Tisch said:
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(Only for Radio Merseyside though)
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She’s pairing up with a local too. They've been holding 40 second auditions in the area For the last couple of weeks.

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A midday release gives me some hope though with everyone being at work :disco:
 
As someone who hasn't had the slightest bit of interest in buying Madonna or Taylor Swift tickets, can someone explain to me in simple terms the Ticketmaster model and the big problems people have had with it now that it looks like it might become relevant?

Basically in language that will make sense to my parents...
 
Pingu said:
As someone who hasn't had the slightest bit of interest in buying Madonna or Taylor Swift tickets, can someone explain to me in simple terms the Ticketmaster model and the big problems people have had with it now that it looks like it might become relevant?

Basically in language that will make sense to my parents...
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there's no particular model. in theory it's as simple as a general on-sale date and presales usually a day or two before. the problem is that many different markets/partners have different presales, meaning one date might be available via a Spotify presale on Tuesday, an Amex presale on Wednesday, etc. people who subscribe to an artist's email newsletter or have pre-ordered a vinyl might get a code too. with multiple presales all starting at different times and hundreds of thousands of fans looking for codes (some unique, some generic), it becomes incredibly messy very quickly.

in addition Ticketmaster seem to over-allocate tickets for presales (often claiming to have "underestimated demand"), meaning that by the time of general sale not many tickets are left when it comes to bigger acts like Beyoncé. then you have literally millions of people "queuing" at 9am on Friday with no hope of ever snatching a ticket.
 
Jark said:
there's no particular model. in theory it's as simple as a general on-sale date and presales usually a day or two before. the problem is that many different markets/partners have different presales, meaning one date might be available via a Spotify presale on Tuesday, an Amex presale on Wednesday, etc. people who subscribe to an artist's email newsletter or have pre-ordered a vinyl might get a code too. with multiple presales all starting at different times and hundreds of thousands of fans looking for codes (some unique, some generic), it becomes incredibly messy very quickly.

in addition Ticketmaster seem to over-allocate tickets for presales (often claiming to have "underestimated demand"), meaning that by the time of general sale not many tickets are left when it comes to bigger acts like Beyoncé. then you have literally millions of people "queuing" at 9am on Friday with no hope of ever snatching a ticket.
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I keep seeing things about surge pricing or something - is that just people getting butthurt about queuing for nothing for ages?
 
Pingu said:
I keep seeing things about surge pricing or something - is that just people getting butthurt about queuing for nothing for ages?
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Ticketmaster US operates differently with something called dynamic pricing. so essentially... the higher the demand, ticket prices adjust upward. if Harry is playing 5 dates at Madison Square Garden and the first two sell out in minutes, the other dates with more tickets left become much more expensive. obviously a total shitshow and apparently Madonna's European shows have been priced in this way too recently, although generally Ticketmaster UK/EU does not do dynamic pricing (I bought Harry tickets after a fair while on sale at the original price).
 
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although generally Ticketmaster UK/EU does not do dynamic pricing (I bought Harry tickets after a fair while on sale at the original price).
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They've started doing it for selected events (e.g. the British Grand Prix) to terrible feedback; but as they've announced fixed prices that can't be the case here.
 
My question is how the queueing will work, and if we'll find out in advance - should we get in the queue now to get an early slot, or will all the positions be randomly allocated at midday on Tuesday?
 
There is an estimated max of 9000 capacity. 1000 will be OGAE, 300 will be Ukrainians and then there are sponsors and delegations, so I’m guessing perhaps 700 for those? That leaves around 7000 for each show on sale to the public. All at once. And I think you have to buy each show separately.

Good luck.
 
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D5K said:
They've started doing it for selected events (e.g. the British Grand Prix) to terrible feedback; but as they've announced fixed prices that can't be the case here.
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Ive definitely seen it used for a few touring acts. For the gay friendly acts I've noticed it on, you end up with prices rocketing in places like Manchester and Brighton, while they're much cheaper in somewhere homophobic like, I don't know, Skegness.
 
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My question is how the queueing will work, and if we'll find out in advance - should we get in the queue now to get an early slot, or will all the positions be randomly allocated at midday on Tuesday?
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The Ticketmaster explanation of their 'smart queue' system is to join the waiting room "at least 10 minutes prior to the event going on sale" and when the sale begins, "you'll be given a place in line". Which I read to mean everyone in the waiting room gets given a random place come midday?
 
I'm tempted not to even bother and to just take anything that comes out during resales at the last minute. :manson:
 
IntoTheDark said:
I'm tempted not to even bother and to just take anything that comes out during resales at the last minute. :manson:
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I loved watching a couple of the shows in the arena last year but they were still far from being the best moments of the week, and that was in a city that barely had any atmosphere.
 
Penelope said:
They have got to stop fucking hosting these things in 10k capacity stadiums.
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It’s a television show at the end of the day. A huge venue would likely affect sound quality and make things much more complicated to organise. It would also be very expensive to host and the stadium would be desolate for all but the live shows.
 
The standing capacity is 1500 ish. Of which 750 is for the public sale. Most of OGAEs tickets are standing.

As far as I know resales will only be through Ticketmaster and all tickets will be on mobile phones and linked to the number of your phone and cannot be given to anyone else. They’re really trying to stop touts completely.
 
D5K said:
Has anything been announced about a resale platform?
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Kala said:
The standing capacity is 1500 ish. Of which 750 is for the public sale. Most of OGAEs tickets are standing.

As far as I know resales will only be through Ticketmaster and all tickets will be on mobile phones and linked to the number of your phone and cannot be given to anyone else. They’re really trying to stop touts completely.
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Oh by resales I meant any tickets that are put on sale closer to the time if they've over accounted for the room needed for the stage/cameras etc. Seems to happen every year no?
 
Jacques said:
The Ticketmaster explanation of their 'smart queue' system is to join the waiting room "at least 10 minutes prior to the event going on sale" and when the sale begins, "you'll be given a place in line". Which I read to mean everyone in the waiting room gets given a random place come midday?
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Randomly in the queue after being in the waiting room seems to be the case. When I was (unsuccessfully) getting Beyoncé tickets I had 4 devices on the go. The device that joined the waiting room last actually got closest to the front of the queue.
 
Kala said:
It’s a television show at the end of the day. A huge venue would likely affect sound quality and make things much more complicated to organise. It would also be very expensive to host and the stadium would be desolate for all but the live shows.
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There is totally a happy medium somewhere between Parken Stadium and capacities that imply ticket prices at the level they've been since 2019.
 
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