Gianni Infantino is corrupt - a thread.

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Now that the World Cup is over, we are not to ignore this horrible man and his doings.

Good on the less problematic but not entirely unproblematic UEFA for calling this shit out.

 
bless his trickle-down philanthropy. at this rate he'll be the next recipient of the FIFA Peace Prize.
 
Any time I see a company or person talking about “sustainable inclusive investment” it’s almost certainly a fraudulent scheme of some kind. Most companies are better at hiding it than he is though. He really does not give one fuck.

I remember the hope people had when he replaced Sepp. LOLZ, etc
 
There were some WORRISOME stories last week of Trump pushing him as the next UN secretary general

Which would be fittingly dystopian in this age

My hope is that Trump usually is rather LOUD about things, and the fact there aren't several unintelligible tweets from him on it must mean it's media bollocks
 
When Eufa is taking the moral high ground you know you're fucked.
 
There's not a chance in hell they'd go through with a boycott

But even Sepp Blatter has been calling Infantino out for being an evil tosspot, and there's really no coming back from that
 
Two new key takeaways have emerged..

It is now becoming apparent senior figures within the game – including at least two of the eight Fifa vice-presidents – were not consulted about the plans, released on Tuesday after reports initially appeared in the Financial Times and The Times.
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The FA have put out a statement saying they knew nothing. He really was just hoping to shove a monumental deal through quietly without consulting anyone. The level of arrogance is astonishing.

This one is the best though:

Fifa says Thrive Eternal is expected to lead the proposed investor group for FFE.

Thrive is an American venture capital firm founded by Joshua Kushner, the brother of US President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared.
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:eyes:
 
that conversation from a few weeks back in the World Cup thread about how we actually know FIFA are corrupt all feels rather quaint now doesn't it :)
 
Jark said:
that conversation from a few weeks back in the World Cup thread about how we actually know FIFA are corrupt all feels rather quaint now doesn't it :)
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Well no, because literally a post above, you have someone posting that senior figures within FIFA weren't even consulted and the whole discussion in the other thread centred on how FIFA as an organisation is corrupt as opposed to one person which is being discussed here...but don't let THAT get in the way of your argument. :) :) :)
 
I don't know all that much about football, but I would have thought that if one person at the top of an organisation is autonomously making decisions about the future of the organisation and completely neutering anyone else's ability to do anything about it or even have a say then the question of whether the organisation as a whole is corrupt becomes somewhat irrelevant doesn't it...
 
The report only said "at least two of eight figures didn't know". I have a hard time believing that absolutely nobody at FIFA knew what he was doing, and I firmly believe it's not just Infantino who is corrupt. I'm in no position to say how widespread it is, and I'm sure there are people at FIFA who are not a fan of Infantino and maybe don't agree with this approach, but there's no way he acted alone in this - it's too big.
 
Sheena said:
Well no, because literally a post above, you have someone posting that senior figures within FIFA weren't even consulted
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so 6 out of 8 vice presidents were aware or consulted. and presumably approved it. FIFA is about to re-elect Infantino unopposed, despite these brazen maneuvers to make the World Cup a venture capitalist money laundering exercise. :) :) :)
 
Pingu said:
...but I would have thought that if one person at the top of an organisation is autonomously making decisions about the future of the organisation and completely neutering anyone else's ability to do anything about it or even have a say then the question of whether the organisation as a whole is corrupt becomes somewhat irrelevant doesn't it...
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one would say that has all the hallmarks of an autocracy. but of course others in FIFA are aware of what's going on and enabling him. they literally have the power not to re-elect him as President but he's about to hoover up every vote. there's no rebellion inside FIFA. he's making them more money than ever before.
 
funky said:
The report only said "at least two of eight figures didn't know". I have a hard time believing that absolutely nobody at FIFA knew what he was doing, and I firmly believe it's not just Infantino who is corrupt. I'm in no position to say how widespread it is, and I'm sure there are people at FIFA who are not a fan of Infantino and maybe don't agree with this approach, but there's no way he acted alone in this - it's too big.
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I actually agree but hold on “He really was just hoping to shove a monumental deal through quietly without consulting anyone”- you can’t have it every way to suit your argument :D
 
Pingu said:
I don't know all that much about football, but I would have thought that if one person at the top of an organisation is autonomously making decisions about the future of the organisation and completely neutering anyone else's ability to do anything about it or even have a say then the question of whether the organisation as a whole is corrupt becomes somewhat irrelevant doesn't it...
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Again, absolutely.

But the entire point of my post was that in the World Cup thread I refuted the argument that FIFA is corrupt as an organisation from (I’m paraphrasing here but) top to bottom. It’s not. There are good people there and some strong ethics. But there’s a lot of stuff that needs sorting too….
 
Jark said:
so 6 out of 8 vice presidents were aware or consulted. and presumably approved it. FIFA is about to re-elect Infantino unopposed, despite these brazen maneuvers to make the World Cup a venture capitalist money laundering exercise. :) :) :)
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Or possibly the article has only been able to find two to go on record…

I’m not even defending this, I am entirely with the thinking in this thread, but my original point remains from the other. I wasn’t even going to post here until your passive aggressive smileys but you just can’t help yourself :D
 
Could UEFA (and other confederations) just say fuck it and organise their own World Cup? Spain and Portugal were already two of the co-hosts for 2030 anyway.
 
Sheena said:
I actually agree but hold on “He really was just hoping to shove a monumental deal through quietly without consulting anyone”- you can’t have it every way to suit your argument :D
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Maybe I should have used the word “everyone”… I do believe he tried to shove this under the table by and large, and I do believe others at FIFA knew. Both things can still be true.
 
Mostly right now I’m loving how much press this is getting - I expected it to be a mild “not another scandal” and he’d get away with it. He’s going to struggle to get away with this one. The ramifications of this appear to be huge, both in terms of FIFA’s continually damaged reputation and the fallout with the wider football community and industry.
 
Maybe this was his plan all along and this is his way of rigging it for his bestie and inaugural FIFA Peace Prize Winner Donald J Trump's USA team to win a World Cup if the UEFA nations do stage a mass boycott (and it the SA nations follow suit).
 
Soldi said:
Could UEFA (and other confederations) just say fuck it and organise their own World Cup? Spain and Portugal were already two of the co-hosts for 2030 anyway.
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UEFA might but I think a lot of the less financially secure associations will be tempted by Infantino's offer of the £15-20 million. It really does smack of the same sort of bribery and payoff shenanigans that Jack Warner etc. used to get up to.
 
the statement is pretty cunt honestly.

The World Cup cannot be treated as an investment product. It is one of football’s greatest sporting legacies. No part of it should ever be surrendered to private investors. The World Cup is not for sale.

Football’s future cannot be dictated by the expectations of those whose first duty is to maximise financial return. Nor can the interests of national associations, leagues, clubs, players and supporters become subordinate to investor returns. Football cannot mortgage its future for financial gain.

Europe’s position is clear. We will never lend this model our legitimacy. No one has the moral authority to sell what they merely hold in trust for the next generation.

As a result of today’s discussion, no UEFA national teams will participate in any FIFA competition for so long as these proposals remain alive, unless this proposal has been abandoned in its entirety and binding assurances have been given that FIFA will never again open its governance or competitions to private ownership.

Some things are simply too important to sell. The FIFA World Cup belongs to football. It always will. And so long as Europe has a voice, it will never be for sale.
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now please let this be the beginning of this evil motherfucker's stunningly rapid downfall
 
What a DESERVED shambles! Good luck asking Morocco to host the whole lot in 2030 (presumably they’ll still want to increase to 64 teams too? :eyes:)
 
This is absolutely DELICIOUS :D

I’m stunned at the speed of the response too. I thought this was dither on for ages - I bet Infantino thought he could play the far right rulebook of just waiting for the furore to die down and push it all through quietly.

UEFA really said NOT TODAY SATAN

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Although it's bad the first thing that could be affected is qualification for the Women's world cup. Hopefully this gets sorted out soon.
 
I read this morning he had already contacted all the confederates and gave them a deadline of September to support his plan and they’d each get $20m investment.

He literally did a bribe in the form of an early bird offer!

Is he fucking INSANE as well as evil?
 
Statement on behalf of Concacaf and its 41 Member Associations

Concacaf is a confederation united by the love of our game, where football comes first. Guided by this philosophy over the past ten years we have built, from the ground up, an organization founded on service, transparent governance, and the long-term stewardship of football.

History has shown FIFA and the football family what happens when the custodians of the game lose sight of these values.

With this in mind, Concacaf today convened a meeting of the presidents of its 41 Member Associations, together with its President, Council members, and its FIFA Council members, to discuss a proposal developed and presented by the FIFA President to establish ‘FIFA Forward Enterprise’ and sell interests in the FIFA World Cup to private investors.

During the meeting, the membership expressed deep concerns about the lack of due process surrounding the proposal, the artificially short deadline imposed, and the absence of any review or approval by the relevant FIFA governance bodies. In addition, the need for private equity investment to fund new and existing FIFA Forward programs following the most profitable FIFA World Cup in history was questioned.

The discussion reinforced the need for greater transparency and proper governance.

For these reasons, Concacaf and its 41 Member Associations have:

  • Rejected the proposal;
  • Tasked their FIFA Council Members with engaging FIFA to determine how existing vast FIFA reserves could be used to increase FIFA Forward funding for football development across our region; and
  • Tasked their FIFA Council Members with instructing the FIFA President to ensure that any matter follows the proper governance processes via staff and FIFA Council, in accordance with the FIFA Statutes.
Through these actions, Concacaf reaffirms that football's future—and its greatest asset—must remain in the hands of our football family.
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That's surely that. Although not quite half of FIFA memberships, I believe OFC and AFC are against too, so it's only a matter of time now.
 
We're living in another era of the boycott (the last time being the 70s-80s). Good to see cunts getting their just desserts.
 
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