Jess Glynne "Pleasant" Discussion Thread

Speaking of which, all true fans of Girl Power don't forget to get your entries in NOW for the Moopyvision Karaoke Spice Special, d'you know what I mean? It's what Jess would want!
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I will happily be proved wrong by the way but many seem to have taken a complete dislike to her without receipts. Yes her songs are dreary and she dresses like a tramp a lot of the time, but I am seeing no concrete evidence of CUNT.

The Isle Of Wight one is pretty big. She was quite high up the bill, main stage 50000 folk, she was seen filmed and photographed on the lash the night before and pulled out cos she was "exhausted". That's pretty cunty.
 
I wouldn’t use the word twat so I changed the title. We don’t need Azealiagate again
 
What’s she done now? There’s lots of cryptic stuff on Twitter about a video and her cancelling herself
 
I’m never catching a Jet 2 flight again in my life.
 
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You know what, fair play to her for including all those organisations in her statement - she didn't have to do that, and maybe they'll get some new followers and donations.

The bit I'm still surprised at is the fact that clip was officially released, and presumably went through multiple people who didn't see anything wrong with it - also Mo Gilligan hasn't said anything despite laughing along, which is a shame as I quite like him usually.
 
Totally logical that she has been immersed in the lgbtq+ community and also didn’t know that word is offensive
I agree that this is probably bullshit BUT to be fair to her for a second - there are still plenty of cis LGBT people who throw that word around all the time. Do I think those people are trash? Yes. Is it possible that Jess Glynne's circle of gays includes people like that? Quite possibly!
 
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You know what, fair play to her for including all those organisations in her statement - she didn't have to do that, and maybe they'll get some new followers and donations.
Making a donation herself would have been a lot better...
 
As a CIS male, I thought that apology was decent and displayed learning.

That she didn't realise it was a slur, is certainly a stretch. That said RuPaul only stopped using she male about 5 years ago. She's quite feasibly been in a bit of a bubble during her time as a pop star.

Her music is terrible
 
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"I understand how insulting it was to see me and @mothecomedian laughing at a story..."

I don't think old MO will be too happy with that - you fucking told it love! :D

I've been startled and had to just laugh along to all sorts of things my podcast guests have come out with... :su2:
 
I agree that this is probably bullshit BUT to be fair to her for a second - there are still plenty of cis LGBT people who throw that word around all the time. Do I think those people are trash? Yes. Is it possible that Jess Glynne's circle of gays includes people like that? Quite possibly!

You’re right! Also to her credit, it does seem like she genuinely feels bad and won’t do it again. I know I’ve said offensive things in my life (and probably will continue to), so I hope this is a learning experience tor her
 
I mean that I will probably accidentally say offensive things! And hopefully learn from it! I don’t want to offend or be harmful
 
To add, and I mean this with love and acknowledge myself within the problem, but I have DESPISED cancel culture since before it was a thing. I get that it's a cultural phenomenon, but it's a pretty grotty one.
 
This is the second layer to the whole thing, which hasn't been addressed by her at all

 
Possibly worth mentioning that Jess Glynne is herself a member of the LGBT community (she identifies as bisexual). In short, these things are complex :tongueout:
 
That's not in response to the post above mine btw (which is a valid point).
 
To add, and I mean this with love and acknowledge myself within the problem, but I have DESPISED cancel culture since before it was a thing. I get that it's a cultural phenomenon, but it's a pretty grotty one.

I think it’s absolutely vile. The rest of what someone brings to the world is totally ignored and everyone finds a convenient place to dump their own rubbish

LOOK AT YOURSELVES FIRST, I say
 
I understand that, and I definitely don't like seeing people getting hounded by mobs online. However, when someone in the public eye does something like this what IS the right course of action? Should people just shut up and leave it unchallenged? The initial tweet about it that got traction is from a trans person - don't they have the right to criticise this?
 
I should probably say for the record that I'm in favour of these situations being treated as genuine teaching moments, rather than having the person in question excommunicated from culture at large (not that I'm convinced that ever really HAPPENS unless they're a paedophile or something).
 
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Mob culture on social media is the problem. Call out problematic stuff, stop defining them by it and stop using it as an excuse to ruin someone's life.

Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but as you say, life is complicated.
 

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