Joanne Rowling and other TERFs

Oh for god's sake - has there ever been a proper look at the Guardian's stance on all this, who's behind it and why they keep doing it? It's definitely a pattern at this point.
 
The bit the Guardian cut:

It seems that some within feminist movements are becoming sympathetic to these far-right campaigns. This year’s furore around Wi Spa in Los Angeles saw an online outrage by transphobes followed by bloody protests organised by the Proud Boys. Can we expect this alliance to continue?​
​
It is very appalling and sometimes quite frightening to see how trans-exclusionary feminists have allied with rightwing attacks on gender. The anti-gender ideology movement is not opposing a specific account of gender, but seeking to eradicate “gender” as a concept or discourse, a field of study, an approach to social power. Sometimes they claim that “sex” alone has scientific standing, but other times they appeal to divine mandates for masculine domination and difference. They don’t seem to mind contradicting themselves.​
​
The Terfs (trans exclusionary radical feminists) and the so-called gender critical writers have also rejected the important work in feminist philosophy of science showing how culture and nature interact (such as Karen Barad, Donna Haraway, EM Hammonds or Anne Fausto-Sterling) in favor of a regressive and spurious form of biological essentialism. So they will not be part of the coalition that seeks to fight the anti-gender movement. The anti-gender ideology is one of the dominant strains of fascism in our times. So the Terfs will not be part of the contemporary struggle against fascism, one that requires a coalition guided by struggles against racism, nationalism, xenophobia and carceral violence, one that is mindful of the high rates of femicide throughout the world, which include high rates of attacks on trans and genderqueer people.​
​
The anti-gender movement circulates a spectre of “gender” as a force of destruction, but they never actually read any works in gender studies. Quick and fearful conclusions take the place of considered judgments. Yes, some work on gender is difficult and not everyone can read it, so we have to do better in reaching a broader public. As important as it is, however, to make complex concepts available to a popular audience, it is equally important to encourage intellectual inquiry as part of public life. Unfortunately, we are living in anti-intellectual times, and neo-fascism is becoming more normalized.​
 
COB said:
Oh for god's sake - has there ever been a proper look at the Guardian's stance on all this, who's behind it and why they keep doing it? It's definitely a pattern at this point.
Click to expand...
The Guardian has TERFs in some senior editorial positions. Sonia Sodha is chief leader writer for the Observor, deputy opinion editor for the Guardian and finds it necessary to write a transphobic rant every few months.
 
octophone said:
The Guardian shat it and deleted a chunk of the Judith Butler piece; the bit where she got properly tore into the Terfs. Absolute shower of cunts, fuck the Guardian's centrist bullshit.
Click to expand...
that's really disappointing. ugh.
 
dmlaw said:
The Guardian has TERFs in some senior editorial positions. Sonia Sodha is chief leader writer for the Observor, deputy opinion editor for the Guardian and finds it necessary to write a transphobic rant every few months.
Click to expand...

Aye, she's an absolute arsehole. Wouldn't be surprised if she was one of the people who had intervened.
 
there's also the awful and TERF-adjacent (or straight-up TERF?) Hadley Freeman
 
Jark said:
there's also the awful and TERF-adjacent (or straight-up TERF?) Hadley Freeman
Click to expand...

No, she's just straight-up TERF although it appears she has recently twigged how many transphobes are in bed with the fash and isn't comfortable. GOOD. Feel that, ya daft sod.
 
octophone said:
The Guardian shat it and deleted a chunk of the Judith Butler piece; the bit where she got properly tore into the Terfs. Absolute shower of cunts, fuck the Guardian's centrist bullshit.
Click to expand...

On what grounds have they cut that bit of the interview? Or have they cut it and pretended people wouldn't notice? That's SHOCKING journalism standards! It's not like it's the paper saying it, it's a bloody interview.
 
Peekaboo said:
On what grounds have they cut that bit of the interview? Or have they cut it and pretended people wouldn't notice? That's SHOCKING journalism standards! It's not like it's the paper saying it, it's a bloody interview.
Click to expand...

The official reason was because of developments in what's known as the "WiSpa" incident - Butler alluded to this but did not make any comment on the event itself, only on the response. It was very, very weak reasoning and the fact that the Graun then just aborted a whole series of pieces they were due to run on gender strongly suggests interference from high up. Their US arm is disgusted and have issued statements trying to distance themselves from the UK edition because of the harm its doing to their reputation. Says it all.
 
Keira Bell’s ultra right wing lawyer is appealing today’s Appeals Court judgment but are no longer pretending that they aren’t determined to do away with Gillick competency altogether.

Gillick competence is a cornerstone in supporting young people to get the care and treatment they need and getting rid is about as far from a feminist act as you can imagine since it does apply to things like abortion.
 
A person involved in the discussions who cannot be named because they’re not authorised to speak publicly about the issue said: “BBC bosses feel that they can’t allow the organisation to be connected to Stonewall in any way, because the BBC needs to be ‘impartial on LGBTQ lives’.”
Click to expand...
Quite a chilling way to phrase what they're doing.
 
Bit weird to describe your position on LGBT lives as "impartial". LGBT isn't a political leaning, it's something innate like race or hair colour. :manson:
 
  • Like
Reactions: COB
We haven’t posted about the Dave Chapelle special on Netflix but they’ve been digging themselves deeper and deeper

 
  • Wow
Reactions: COB
This is the thread in question



(Although it should be said that Netflix is claiming to have suspended her because she crashed a management meeting to talk about the special)
 


So they sent the employee the link to the meeting and then suspended her when she attended…..
 
Sounds very much like a Netflix thing to do. Paint an image of inclusivity, support and equality, but behind the steel and glass treat employees like numbers and objects. They’re notorious for it.
 
And when was 'attending the wrong meeting' a sackable/suspension offence anyway? Just bizarre.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RJN
funky said:
Sounds very much like a Netflix thing to do. Paint an image of inclusivity, support and equality, but behind the steel and glass treat employees like numbers and objects. They’re notorious for it.
Click to expand...

It really is the perfect demonstration of how performative so much allyship actually is. "We love our LGBTQ+ audience but here's a special with some transphobia and we've sacked a staff member for complaining cos we want this to do big numbers but oh shit the backlash is doing big numbers so we'd better back-pedal but not by editing or deleting the actual special no siree."

FUCK OFF.
 
I kind of wish this had kicked off closer to Pride season when they changed their logo to the colours of the flag, just to underline the hypocrisy.
 
Last edited:
Also most of the people running it are straight, and allegedly their funding mainly comes from US right wing Christian groups.
 
Tisch said:
A group of L, G and B people who think the T doesn't belong under the same umbrella. Breeding ground for TERFs and other awful people naturally.
Click to expand...

Struggling to find the words to accurately convey how much this doesn’t make any sense
 
They’re very much in bed with the Conservative party too.

Gay tories and Terfs basically.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top Bottom