The War in Ukraine

To stave off those spiteful death threats, here’s MARUV to bring us back to the subject of the thread :disco:

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I'm not really sure if banning oil and gas from Russia is a good idea or not.

Russia will continue to sell their product to China and India. They won't go short of customers. It'll drive a fairly pointless spike in prices when world demand is the same and world supply is the same. Things will settle down again once new supply lines have been organised.

It'll basically mean two medium term consequences once a new world of supply chains is sorted:

- EU/UK/US will be less reliant on Russia, so they can't threaten us with that
- Russia will be less reliant on EU/UK/US, so any economic sanctions we make will matter to them much less

I can't place it as a good idea or bad idea for that reason. Short term pain, medium term... meh

this is interesting. not sure what i think either. at this point it seems like it'll drive the price of energy up and probably make europe more reliant on us imports which will probably open the door for more fracking there because it's better to continue fucking the planet instead.



cooperation is the only way forward. isolationism will only create more problems in the future.
 
Russia and its trolls have so far not managed to mobilise any public opinion against helping Ukraine, and the far right parties they support are now weakend because of their association with Russia. Let’s hope the sanctions don’t backfire in EU with higher inflation and unemployment that might turn the public against the sanctions.
 
How could he have avoided it tho? Apart from giving Putin what he wanted.

zelenskyy ran to be president of ukraine on an anti-war platform, not i.

“Throughout my entire life, I’ve tried to do everything so Ukrainians smiled,” Zelenskyy, a former comedian and actor, said in his inauguration speech. “In the next five years, I will do everything so that you, Ukrainians, don’t cry.”


wink!

ps excuse me, i'm furious.
 
zelenskyy ran to be president of ukraine on an anti-war platform, not i.

“Throughout my entire life, I’ve tried to do everything so Ukrainians smiled,” Zelenskyy, a former comedian and actor, said in his inauguration speech. “In the next five years, I will do everything so that you, Ukrainians, don’t cry.”

wink!

ps excuse me, i'm furious.
I am confused why all the agency is being placed on Zelensky and Ukraine, but Putin and Russia is just being given a free pass?
 
zelenskyy ran to be president of ukraine on an anti-war platform, not i.

“Throughout my entire life, I’ve tried to do everything so Ukrainians smiled,” Zelenskyy, a former comedian and actor, said in his inauguration speech. “In the next five years, I will do everything so that you, Ukrainians, don’t cry.”

wink!

ps excuse me, i'm furious.
I imagine when he said that he didn't expect his country to be invaded by a total nutter. I don't really understand what else you think he should have done?
 
Isn’t it obvious? He should have given Donetskh and Luhansk to Russia and humbly promised never to join NATO. Putin would have been satisfied, the Ukrainian public would be delighted and everyone would have lived happily ever after. :)
 
zelenskyy ran to be president of ukraine on an anti-war platform, not i.

“Throughout my entire life, I’ve tried to do everything so Ukrainians smiled,” Zelenskyy, a former comedian and actor, said in his inauguration speech. “In the next five years, I will do everything so that you, Ukrainians, don’t cry.”

wink!

ps excuse me, i'm furious.
Putin was going to invade whether he gave this speech or not. If he’d have capitulated he’d have broken this promise anyway; look at the response from the Ukrainian people, they’re prepared to fight and die for a free Ukraine despite this war not being of their choosing.
 
Isn’t it obvious? He should have given Donetskh and Luhansk to Russia and humbly promised never to join NATO. Putin would have been satisfied, the Ukrainian public would be delighted and everyone would have lived happily ever after. :)

But we wouldn’t have had such slutty Eurovision entries, so…
 
I am confused why all the agency is being placed on Zelensky and Ukraine, but Putin and Russia is just being given a free pass?

of course, they're not, they're fucking bombing cities and killing people! this we can all see.

beyond that, there are two sides in this conflict - russia and the usa. ukraine has the bad fortune of being caught between them. zelenskyy chose a side and these are the consequences.
 

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