Thoughts on Oasis

I like Be Here Now in retrospect, its not as bad as people make out
 
octophone said:
Their b-sides were ridiculously good, which was part of their problem. Imagine chucking "Round Are Way" or "The Masterplan" away as b-sides. And on the same single! Someone should have taken Noel aside and said "look, Round Are Way is a single, sit on it, we'll put it out in the summer and it'll be number one for a month". But no-one had that calm head, everyone was figuratively and literally high on success. No-one even had the guts to suggest that the word he was looking for was "Our".

Talk Tonight, Listen Up, D'You Wanna Be A Spaceman, Live By The Sea, Half A World Away, Acquiesce...better than 90% of the stuff on the actual albums.
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My stepdad was a big Oasis fan so heard plenty of those b-sides. I always liked Acquiesce a lot, that chorus is a thrill. Talk Tonight is great too, a version of it was on a live at the White Room magazine freebie cassette that I played a lot.
 
I don’t see why they’d be in another currency :eyes:

But yeah they’ve been confirmed to start at €80ish
 
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A friend convinced me to sign up for the presale against my better judgment smh. I have never seen Blur or Suede live (both of whom I much much prefer) and the latter have even been touring Asia recently pfffft!!!

Part of me thinks that this will be horrifying because surely Oasis and their fans are diametrically opposed to everything that I stand for and seek to exemplify!

But then @big ron is an Oasis fan and he seems like a thoroughly sound chap from the little that I've seen whilst round these parts!

I am confused and think I will book a ticket to Guatemala instead, but I remain intrigued by these latest developments. The masochist in me has never been able to resist inevitable DISASTER.
 
old spice said:
A friend convinced me to sign up for the presale against my better judgment smh. I have never seen Blur or Suede live (both of whom I much much prefer) and the latter have even been touring Asia recently pfffft!!!

Part of me thinks that this will be horrifying because surely Oasis and their fans are diametrically opposed to everything that I stand for and seek to exemplify!

But then @big ron is an Oasis fan and he seems like a thoroughly sound chap from the little that I've seen whilst round these parts!

I am confused and think I will book a ticket to Guatemala instead, but I remain intrigued by these latest developments. The masochist in me has never been able to resist inevitable DISASTER.
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I get why people think all Oasis fans are just coked up wife beaters, but they aren't.

When I went to Knebworth for LG a couple of years back it was an incredible festival atmosphere, yeah of course there were loads of 40 something Dads in buckethats sniffing their keys, but the vibe was overwhelmingly friendly and happy, there were a lot of parents with young adult kids who've obviously got into the band through as families. Got to remember that Oasis were peak when the UK was deep in an MDMA fueled rave love affair too, and loads of people were both into dance music and love as well as the brash guitar led swagger of britpop.
 
They are getting a lot of shit for this dynamic pricing business. Quite rightly too, if it's something they opted into.
 
Dynamic Pricing is evil. They knew exactly what the demand was going to be like before the tickets went on sale which means that it was baked in before Saturday morning. It's just gouging - getting people to wait and wait and wait and then hitting them which a much higher price, like "well, you've waited all this time, there's no going back now, eh? Cough up, prole". Wankers.
 
octophone said:
Dynamic Pricing is evil. They knew exactly what the demand was going to be like before the tickets went on sale which means that it was baked in before Saturday morning. It's just gouging - getting people to wait and wait and wait and then hitting them which a much higher price, like "well, you've waited all this time, there's no going back now, eh? Cough up, prole". Wankers.
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That's exactly it - it's just ticketmaster and the act doing the gouging themselves, rather than a tout.

And although ticketmaster doesn't create the demand (in that the buyers have to want what is being sold in the first place), they are controlling it with the queues for a queue business, knowing that people who have been hyped up sitting there watching the clock go by and numbers tick down will then on impulse spend two, three or four times as much on a ticket as they originally planned to.
 
Not to mention, I saw yesterday people admitting to using 4-5 devices to enter a queue. If tens of thousands of people did that too then that just instantly creates a false level of demand.
 
Ellie said:
Not to mention, I saw yesterday people admitting to using 4-5 devices to enter a queue. If tens of thousands of people did that too then that just instantly creates a false level of demand.
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How many people DON'T try on at least one other device? Or have a number of friends all online at the same time trying?
 
I have no problem at all with touts being thwarted, assuming it works. It just seems clear that ticketmaster and the acts have decided that they have no issue with fans being gouged - they just want the money for themselves.
 
lolly said:
How many people DON'T try on at least one other device? Or have a number of friends all online at the same time trying?
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I personally don’t do it, and I get better success that way. But to be honest, the last time I got tickets for something “in demand” was donkeys years ago. Hello Dolly pre-sale was the biggest stress of recent years, and that didn’t even sell out :D

I do wonder how they’re going to identify the re-sale tickets if they’re serious about cancelling them. Especially standing ones without a seat number advertised.
 
Isn’t dynamic pricing everywhere now in arenas and stadiums?

Not sure Oasis should be shouldered with all the blame
 
I've genuinely not been aware of it for concerts before, although it's been a long time since I booked a stadium or arena gig.
 
However, if it IS true (as I've read suggested) that the act has to opt into it, then I am happy putting blame on them, and anyone else who does it.
 
They do it with theatres - ATG do it whenever they have a limited run play with a big name actor (most recently Romeo & Juliet with Tom Holland, which I heard was rubbish). Of course concerts offer those “platinum” packages in arenas where they save the front blocks for double the price, but not heard about them randomly increasing the cost based on how many people are online.

Did Taylor Swift do it? A news report yesterday asking people on the street how much they would/had paid for concerts had a woman say she paid £500 a ticket to see Swift :bad:
 
Ellie said:
Did Taylor Swift do it? A news report yesterday asking people on the street how much they would/had paid for concerts had a woman say she paid £500 a ticket to see Swift :bad:
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Anyone willing to pay that has probably already spent more than that on her album already.
 
So happy I got to see Prince so many times for £31.21 and then £10 on the door for the final time. MJ used to fight the promoters when touring South America to get the ticket cost in line with the economy for whichever country he was in. Artists of a certain stature very much can set the prices.

Oasis are clearly doing this for the money. For Swift, she has more money than God now and her fanbase are mostly under 40, so I’m sure she has the power and chooses not to.
 
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How does dynamic pricing work in practice for shows like this where the demand is massive at the start? Are there any tickets at the supposed lowest price available at all? Because surely it was then that demand was highest. Do they just charge whatever the market will bear then? Presumably they will be well aware of what cost people will pay by the number of people who dropped out when they saw the price.
 
From what I understand it works exactly the same way as the travel industry - as less airline tickets or hotel rooms become available, the price goes up.
 
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