You wanted Friday? Well you got it now!

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I work in a university print room, so September is always crazy with the new academic year starting (everyone wants their teaching materials and then there's all the promotional stuff for fresher's week etc). This year has been even more full-on than usual though, as it's the first time since 2019 that everything is fully based on campus/in person again. We also had somebody leave relatively abruptly recently (and we're a really small team to begin with) so yes... a bit of pressure :D We will make it through though!

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@Rachey, usually people get referred to local mental health services, which is invariably 6 sessions of CBT, which I don’t think is very helpful at all. But she should push for a non-CBT taking therapy, even tho, as Lolly says, it’ll take ages.
 
@Rachey, usually people get referred to local mental health services, which is invariably 6 sessions of CBT, which I don’t think is very helpful at all. But she should push for a non-CBT taking therapy, even tho, as Lolly says, it’ll take ages.
Thank you. I'll let her know.
 
The thing I enjoy most about being off work is being able to wake up naturally. Also, your first night with a new mattress and new bedding is super luxurious - you feel as if you're in a hotel.

Pure bliss.
 
@Rachey, usually people get referred to local mental health services, which is invariably 6 sessions of CBT, which I don’t think is very helpful at all. But she should push for a non-CBT taking therapy, even tho, as Lolly says, it’ll take ages.

I was about to say this and assumed counselling sessions fell under the same bracket? Maybe not then...and as lolly says probably area dependant (I know they're not the same thing, I just meant the service itself...usually you get referred to someone who is a counsellor trained in CBT etc). But 6 free sessions sounds about right. It isn't usually enough from my experience but it's certainly a starting point and depending on the person and who they are paired with can be surprisingly beneficial in that short time. It's usually an hour once a week. Don't know if you can extend that...most likely you'd have to have a long gap.

I was fortunate in that because at the time when I last needed help or a "top up", Mr. RoM was a nurse and it meant as his husband I could be fast tracked. Which sounds dreadful doesn't it but I was obviously very glad of that benefit. Anyway it wasn't massively successful this time BUT he (the counsellor) was very good and it helped a great deal to talk freely and sometimes emotionally about things. Which is half the battle/healing in lots of cases. But no, it wasn't enough time and no nurse-husband could help me extend that.

Previously, years before, and in those times I did have to wait, I had someone who did not fit at all (not her fault, she was just specialised in other areas, but that's what the dice roll gave me...and it is a dice roll) and before that I had someone who used CBT which I did need at the time and was extremely helpful, but that wasn't depression. None of mine have been for depression but on all three occasions the person has been a counsellor trained in CBT and being NHS, budgets/lack of resources etc, I assumed a referral for depression would lead to the same group of people as that (mine was more for anxiety among a few other things).

Either way, that's appalling if these services are now disappearing behind a private pay wall
 
ROADS TOO NARROW

Not just that...they're narrow but also VERY HIGH on either side in many places so it feels like you're driving in a trench. It's really claustrophobic. I'm not even the driver in our relationship but I'm constantly on edge if we're down that way. There's nowhere near enough passing places
 
I was about to say this and assumed counselling sessions fell under the same bracket? Maybe not then...and as lolly says probably area dependant (I know they're not the same thing, I just meant the service itself...usually you get referred to someone who is a counsellor trained in CBT etc). But 6 free sessions sounds about right. It isn't usually enough from my experience but it's certainly a starting point and depending on the person and who they are paired with can be surprisingly beneficial in that short time. It's usually an hour once a week. Don't know if you can extend that...most likely you'd have to have a long gap.

I was fortunate in that because at the time when I last needed help or a "top up", Mr. RoM was a nurse and it meant as his husband I could be fast tracked. Which sounds dreadful doesn't it but I was obviously very glad of that benefit. Anyway it wasn't massively successful this time BUT he (the counsellor) was very good and it helped a great deal to talk freely and sometimes emotionally about things. Which is half the battle/healing in lots of cases. But no, it wasn't enough time and no nurse-husband could help me extend that.

Previously, years before, and in those times I did have to wait, I had someone who did not fit at all (not her fault, she was just specialised in other areas, but that's what the dice roll gave me...and it is a dice roll) and before that I had someone who used CBT which I did need at the time and was extremely helpful, but that wasn't depression. None of mine have been for depression but on all three occasions the person has been a counsellor trained in CBT and being NHS, budgets/lack of resources etc, I assumed a referral for depression would lead to the same group of people as that (mine was more for anxiety among a few other things).

Either way, that's appalling if these services are now disappearing behind a private pay wall
I know the island has shocking mental health services which doesn't help.

So is CBT used as a starting point for all mental health problems, depression, PTSD etc?
 
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It's probably used because it's the cheapest service to deliver. And invariably they will start with the cheapest service and then offer you more if they assess you need it, if it's available.

And it IS effective for a lot of people with mild to moderate depression/stress/anxiety. But I think the government's own advice says you need up to 24 sessions of it - and like Bev and RoM habe said, you won't get offered that. Likelihood is it will be an offer of 6 sessions after an initial wait (which will help, but only really start to), and then face either paying privately, or to continue on the NHS face another even longer wait, if it's available.
 
I know the island has shocking mental health services which doesn't help.

So is CBT used as a starting point for all mental health problems, depression, PTSD etc?

No I just meant from my experience and from others I know, if you have mental health problems and need/want to talk about it, the group of NHS people you're referred to are all counsellors under one umbrella - but many are trained in CBT among other things. And from speaking to said counsellors, they clearly treated people with depression. But that's just my experience - and in fairness I needed both (CBT and counselling). I was just saying I'd be surprised if there's this whole other pool of trained people the NHS have, but that's great if there is. Probably not explaining what I mean that well!

CBT itself is more to give you techniques to overcome or deal with certain things. It just regularly comes into play in these sessions and at one time, was extremely useful to me. But probably not so much for depression as @Beverley says
 
It's probably used because it's the cheapest service to deliver. And invariably they will start with the cheapest service and then offer you more if they assess you need it, if it's available.

And it IS effective for a lot of people with mild to moderate depression/stress/anxiety. But I think the government's own advice says you need up to 24 sessions of it - and like Bev and RoM habe said, you won't get offered that. Likelihood is it will be an offer of 6 sessions after an initial wait (which will help, but only really start to), and then face either paying privately, or to continue on the NHS face another even longer wait, if it's available.

Government's own advice not matching up to what is actually possible for the general population, shocking :eyes:

I definitely would have taken more sessions when I last had it, as you say it was just getting started and it's frustrating. My last counsellor told ME he felt it was just starting and was frustrated it was over!
 
I missed my alarm and had 45 minutes to get up and get in. The perils of being a cover teacher.
 
I was out for a bit there and, for some reason, wasn't feeling too good. Too much peopling and I wasn't up to any more...town busy, lots of wankers, an aggressive and very smelly bloke getting in everyone's face asking for money. Decided to go to Tesco then go home. Got home. Left most of my shopping in the store! I was so desperate to get out of there that I put a couple of things in my bag and left the "bag for life" sat at the till! It was a couple of bottle of juice and a loaf so I'm not harrowed or bereft, it's more that I didn't realise I was *that* keen to just get the hell out of there!
 
You could probably buy the whole of the IoW for that much.
You could certainly get a nice 3 bed detached house! My brother's was £750k, 4 bed detached with a swimming pool.
 

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