Veganism is a protected philosophical belief

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I'm sure Veganuary has got the supermarkets pushing meat substitutes, but I think we'll see more of it in general. I've noticed my local Sainsbury's has lost an aisle of meat as well.
 
Pretty sure vegans made up 1% of the pollution last time it was measured. I doubt losing a whole meat aisle marks the start of MASS VEGANISM.
 
Ag said:
Pretty sure vegans made up 1% of the pollution last time it was measured. I doubt losing a whole meat aisle marks the start of MASS VEGANISM.
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The majority of these products are not marketed at vegans. They are marketed at those who want to cut down their meat intake.
 
Ag said:
But meat substitutes creates extra pollution by being manufacturing. Also fake meat is made by people who made have had a Maccies for lunch!!!
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This should answer some of those points:

https://this.co/why/

Meat substitutes are important for me as someone who is still very much attached to the taste/texture that meat gives. But I am also gradually trying to move away from them too and make them into something only for a rare occasion.
 
Do staunch vegans generally feed their pets vegan products too?
 
I am vegan for animal rights reasons. Others are for different reasons - some for health, some for environmental, some just don't like the taste and texture of meat, or a combination of them.

I like meat substitutes. Many vegans don't. But everyone has the right to decide what they want to eat, vegan or non-vegan.
 
I only ask as it must be hard for them to feed a dog a tin of dog food for example. Surely, if not the animal will just hunt for what it can when outside. When my dog was younger anytime I let her off the lead she ended up coming back with a decapitated rabbit.
 
Kalabaliken said:
I am vegan for animal rights reasons. Others are for different reasons - some for health, some for environmental, some just don't like the taste and texture of meat, or a combination of them.
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There are so many things you have to leave behind, that I can't imagine a single person that goes vegan because he doesn't like the taste of meat.
 
Rita said:
Do staunch vegans generally feed their pets vegan products too?
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I would say most don’t. There are some vegan pet foods out there but for me that’s something I’d draw the line with. But then I don’t have any cats or dogs.
 
Alla said:
There are so many things you have to leave behind, that I can't imagine a single person that goes vegan because he doesn't like the taste of meat.
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You’d be surprised! I’m guessing veganism is not at the same level in Spain yet.
 
And I don't know if things have changed lately, but you had to spend a fortune if you wanted to eat (properly) being vegan, at least here.
 
Kalabaliken said:
I would say most don’t. There are some vegan pet foods out there but for me that’s something I’d draw the line with. But then I don’t have any cats or dogs.
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Yes, maybe most don’t keep pets. If you were vegan and had a dog you would not really be able to get away from handling meat in some form.
 
Alla said:
There are so many things you have to leave behind, that I can't imagine a single person that goes vegan because he doesn't like the taste of meat.
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Two of my nieces are both veggie for that exact reason

Mind you, if I was regularly subjected to what their mother does to a piece of steak, I probably would be as well.
 
Indie said:
Seems like a totally unbiased comparison by the manufacturer.

(Probably true but can't shake a cynic's eye)
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Quite. A company website isn't going to convince me (even though I'm not being entirely serious...).
 
Kalabaliken said:
You’d be surprised! I’m guessing veganism is not at the same level in Spain yet.
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It isn't, I'm telling you. There are more and more places to eat vegetarian, but vegan is something else, I suspect in a few years it will be here too.
 
My radical lesbian hunt sabbing vegan friends have four cats, and they feed them regular food. I think they believe that cats have different dietary needs.
 
Alla said:
There are so many things you have to leave behind, that I can't imagine a single person that goes vegan because he doesn't like the taste of meat.
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I often don't like the "feel" of meat.
 
Going by some of the Reddit subs I follow, we have it pretty good in the UK in both product choice and also attitudes for vegans. I know in the US, a lot of people still don’t accept it and find it difficult to deal with, from stories people tell. Ive never really had an issue apart from one time when we were going out for Christmas Day dinner and the veggie option was pasta in tomato sauce. At £75 a head!
 
Kalabaliken said:
Going by some of the Reddit subs I follow, we have it pretty good in the UK in both product choice and also attitudes for vegans. I know in the US, a lot of people still don’t accept it and find it difficult to deal with, from stories people tell. Ive never really had an issue apart from one time when we were going out for Christmas Day dinner and the veggie option was pasta in tomato sauce. At £75 a head!
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It's almost like something off The Apprentice.
 
Kalabaliken said:
Going by some of the Reddit subs I follow, we have it pretty good in the UK in both product choice and also attitudes for vegans. I know in the US, a lot of people still don’t accept it and find it difficult to deal with, from stories people tell. Ive never really had an issue apart from one time when we were going out for Christmas Day dinner and the veggie option was pasta in tomato sauce. At £75 a head!
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Which is usually the minute my vegetarianism breaks down. At a meal in Portugal last summer, the only option on the menu, which was set at 50 EUR, was vegetarian lasagne. I fucked that and had the fillet steak. Blue.
 
lolly said:
Two of my nieces are both veggie for that exact reason

Mind you, if I was regularly subjected to what their mother does to a piece of steak, I probably would be as well.
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I know a few people that are vegetarian because they don't like meat (some like chicken and they occasionally cheat), but vegan? Well, I had a friend who didn't like pretty much ANYTHING, but that's no usual.
 
Alla said:
I know a few people that are vegetarian because they don't like meat (some like chicken and they occasionally cheat), but vegan? Well, I had a friend who didn't like pretty much ANYTHING, but that's no usual.
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Although I love many dairy products (MMM...CHEESE), I find the thought of cow's milk abhorrent nowadays. I would struggle to have it unless it's in something. It can't be too far to imagine other people think that about all dairy products AND meat...
 
Pretty sure the UK isn't THAT enlightened either. Just pop on ITV before 9am.
 
lolly said:
Unfortunately I'm the the same with a lot of vegetables.
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I don't think nowadays there's a vegetable I won't eat. Broad beans I'm not FOND of, but that's it. Everything else I LOVE.
 
lolly said:
Really? It seems entirely logical to me.
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You would go vegetarian, but vegan means you stop eating so many things that have nothing to do with the taste of meat, that I don't even see it as the beginning of a transition. But I eat and like everything, so what do I know.
 
Vegan’s/Vegetarian’s are always going to be a minority, but people becoming more conscious of the amount of meat they are eating can only ever be for the greater good.
 
lolly said:
My radical lesbian hunt sabbing vegan friends have four cats, and they feed them regular food. I think they believe that cats have different dietary needs.
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Quite right too. Anyone insisting on feeding Kitty tofu treats and seitan dippers because of their own dietary choices needs a WORD
 
Rita said:
Vegan’s/Vegetarian’s are always going to be a minority, but people becoming more conscious of the amount of meat they are eating can only ever be for the greater good.
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I totally agree with this.
 
Alla said:
You would go vegetarian, but vegan means you stop eating so many things that have nothing to do with the taste of meat, that I don't even see it as the beginning of a transition. But I eat and like everything, so what do I know.
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A lot of vegans start off as vegetarian and then transition to full vegan, so to speak. It's too much of a shock to the system to go full-on vegan straight away.

I've been veggie for years but I'd probably still struggle to go vegan. I love eggs and CHEESE (in moderation unfortunately) and I don't want 100% of my protein intake to be from beans and lentils all the time. It gets boring.

I don't think I'd ever go back to eating meat though.
 
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Alla said:
It isn't, I'm telling you. There are more and more places to eat vegetarian, but vegan is something else, I suspect in a few years it will be here too.
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Even in Ibiza which is full of hippies and the like theres maybe 3-4 vegan restaurants and they don't tend to last long.
 
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