Coronavirus

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Are you worried about contracting coronavirus?

  • Yes, I am absolutely terrified

    Votes: 12 15.6%
  • Yes, I am slightly concerned

    Votes: 35 45.5%
  • I am neither concerned or unconcerned

    Votes: 7 9.1%
  • No, I am slightly unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%
  • No, I am totally unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%
  • Bring back the old poll

    Votes: 3 3.9%
  • Charlotte Awbrey tits out doing the Macarena

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • I believe VoR is evil

    Votes: 11 14.3%

  • Total voters
    77
It's a classic bugbear, now essentially amplified to weapons-level prickishness. It's one thing to expect someone with no children to just accept that their summer holiday won't be in the summer and you'll be lucky to get anything at Christmas because kids eh? but saying "you first because fewer people care if you die" is a whole other level.

Oh don't get me started on this one. The amount of work I have had to pick up during lockdown because PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF OTHER PEOPLE and how they NEED A BREAK. Spare me the VIOLIN.

The latest one I had today is rearranging (without consulting!) a 10am meeting to 8am because it's MORE CONVENIENT for their CHILDCARE ARRANGEMENTS under LOCKDOWN.
 
Oh don't get me started on this one. The amount of work I have had to pick up during lockdown because PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF OTHER PEOPLE and how they NEED A BREAK. Spare me the VIOLIN.

The latest one I had today is rearranging (without consulting!) a 10am meeting to 8am because it's MORE CONVENIENT for their CHILDCARE ARRANGEMENTS under LOCKDOWN.
This is my work life on a regular basis anyway. The flexible working policy that so many parents use by condensing their hours because of nursery days means that no-one can EVER have a meeting on a Wednesday as so many people won't be there. I have no issue with the fact that it's unfortunate that they can't get places at nurseries which are insanely expensive... it's when they are doing those hours for that reason as agreed with HR, and are still doing them 8 years later!

I have a colleague who was doing specialised hours and finishing and 2pm because of caring responsibilities for his mother. His mother DIED nearly a decade ago and he's still doing those hours.
 
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Oh God all my Uni meetings have rearranged to due to motherfucking childcare.
 
One of my colleagues has literally been looking after their child and not working for half the week, which y’know I can understand but then when they’re supposed to be in work the other 2 and a half days they appear incognito. :D

I should have had children.
 
We're allegedly going back to work next week, but apparently only half of us will actually be on site because we don't have enough space in our UNDERGROUND HOVEL to effectively socially distance with more than three people there :eyes:
 
We're allegedly going back to work next week, but apparently only half of us will actually be on site because we don't have enough space in our UNDERGROUND HOVEL to effectively socially distance with more than three people there :eyes:

Next Friday? I thought the adjustment of restrictions wasn’t until next Thursday?
 
I don't know what day it'll be, they were talking about it before the announcements today so I'm not sure they entirely give a fuck about that - we're apparently all getting 'special letters' to say we can be on the premises, whatever that means!
 
the opposition has pressured the government into speeding up the re-opening so I might be going back to work soon too. I'm not prepared
 
I'm back on the 1st of June, but with reduced hours. I don't think I'm capable of working a 40 hour week anymore.
 
When people say they're back, do you mean back in to offices?

I just don't see how that's going to keep anyone safe, what happens when you need the loo? Are you supposed to just HOLD IT IN until you get home, or will we have bottles of dettol to wash the seats and have a drink of?
 
I'm back to my office, but there are only 3 or 4 people there including myself, so I'm not overly concerned. My boss has been using it throughout lockdown even though she could do all the work from home as she didn't want to be around her family. :D
 
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When people say they're back, do you mean back in to offices?

I just don't see how that's going to keep anyone safe, what happens when you need the loo? Are you supposed to just HOLD IT IN until you get home, or will we have bottles of dettol to wash the seats and have a drink of?

unless someone is coughing on the toilet seat and then you’re licking it, I think you’re fine.

we haven’t gotten a date back but they mentioned that they won’t have everyone back at the same time so I assume it’ll be at least half and half.
 
But surely it only takes one person to have a cough or heaven forbid not wash their hands :zombie:
 
I don't think our MD is impressed by the "hysteria" as he put it to one of the email groups I'm in, and his Mrs (part of HR) was probing me with "so when you coming back in? What do you mean when it's safe, it's always been safe", but they're abiding by what I think is employment law at the moment and not forcing anyone to. When I pointed out I'm actually more productive at home (and explained why) she back-pedalled a fair bit and conceded that she's technically an equal in the hierarchy anyway so unless HR get told to reel the workers back into the office she's not giving orders and is simply curious.

Mind, as far as I treat it, the company hierarchy means relatively little where the family of top brass are concerned. Maybe that's a bit unfair as the MD does seem careful to avoid obvious nepotism, but I think the idea of a neutral family member in an organisation is sort of akin to the concept of an "informal interview" - you know deep down there can't really be such a thing.

To be fair there are areas where I'm in theory less productive, like the role of going to desks holding people's hands while they click "OK" to something on their computer that only has "OK" as an option in the first place (thank goodness these people exist though, they help keep me employed). But in the current distancing regulations that wouldn't be possible anyway, so there's no point in me being there when I can work on web and systems stuff from home. For the odd person who's in or working from home and struggling with something, remote desktop has been fine. At home I don't have to pick up the phone and say "he's not at his desk at the moment. No I'm not sure when he'll be back. Yes he is in today, he just isn't tied to his desk. No he doesn't carry a mobile phone (that you can have, Mr Salesman, even if he did). Yes you can try back in half an hour. Alright then. Thank you. Bye." every 2 minutes, and when he IS in the office I don't have to try and continuously acknowledge his commentary on everything he's doing. I'm getting SO much more done, and that's without him needing to peer over my shoulder all the time!

Seriously it's a big and spacious site and I have no doubt that social distancing is quite easy there for MOST of the people. But in IT we have a pokey little office with just the two of us, one of whom insists on standing right over my shoulder (I don't miss his breath) extremely frequently. I'm sure the risk is fairly minimal that he's carrying it and will pass it on to me or vice versa, but what's the point in taking that risk, I'd rather not. There's no way he'd be any good at distancing, just as he wasn't on the last day I was in and I had to keep holding my breath. "But we can put you in another office" said Mrs MD. Right... that's fine... so I'd be isolated... so why not just isolate at home? (I think she took this point)

Bosses (and HR people) are so paranoid that if you're not on site there's no way to know whether you're working your arse off hard enough and that "working from home" is code for "sitting at home watching Richard and Judy and doing fuck all" but I can honestly say I've never been so productive. Comfortable environment, my own kit, no interruptions, and a sense of responsibility and self-discipline that seems to come from the combination of everything being up shit creek, and generally being (grudgingly) trusted. I don't even want to skive or surf the internet or whatever as then a) I'm shooting myself in the foot as the company's hanging by a thread with no orders and we all have to muck in, and b) it would blur the lines between work and leisure at a time when those lines are already harder to maintain.
 
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To be fair there are areas where I'm in theory less productive, like the role of going to desks holding people's hands while they click "OK" to something on their computer that only has "OK" as an option in the first place (thank goodness these people exist though, they help keep me employed)

This part is incredibly familiar! I do wonder how some of these people manage to get out of bed in the morning without a picture diagram.
 
I only need to be physically in the office a couple of days a week, but to be honest I'll be glad for the change of scene, and I get FUCK ALL done at home. The 50 minute walk to and from work may get tedious, but my bosses have included that as working hours so I start an hour later and finish an hour early.
 
I just don't see how any semi-decent, semi-agile company where remote working is a possibility looks at this pandemic and goes: "Right, when can I get you all back under the office roof again?".

It's extremely short-sighted and a bit stupid considering the benefits for the company itself, let alone the employees. I'm not saying DISBAND THE OFFICE but you should be looking at reorganising your structure rather than pressuring people to go back to work!
 
This part is incredibly familiar! I do wonder how some of these people manage to get out of bed in the morning without a picture diagram.

Ha, truth. It seems to be very common, even to the point of being "normal"? Like, I don't mean to imply that we're superior, but it seems in our position of having a logical and methodical mindset we just can't quite "think down" to the average level of ineptitude. I say this half jokingly. But I think there's something odd about computers in particular, perhaps ingrained in people through decades of dodgy sci-fi, that makes people think if they press the wrong button something will blow up, and so even just a message saying "press ok" and a single ok button is something where they want your assurance that pressing ok won't result in all the magic smoke escaping.

I just don't see how any semi-decent, semi-agile company where remote working is a possibility looks at this pandemic and goes: "Right, when can I get you all back under the office roof again?".

It's extremely short-sighted and a bit stupid considering the benefits for the company itself, let alone the employees. I'm not saying DISBAND THE OFFICE but you should be looking at reorganising your structure rather than pressuring people to go back to work!

Definitely! But see the paragraph I edited onto my textwall regarding the fear that I think bosses are faced with that if they can't see you working then you're not doing any work. Like a sort of productivity version of the tree falling in the forest. We're actually doing daily reports from home, which is more than any of us did while in the office looking busy. There will of course be people who manage to get nothing done at home (not the environment for them, or they have distractions, or just find they can get away with it) but one can hope that this unexpected wave of home working helps foster some kind of trust between employers and employees and allows those who don't take the piss to carry on with the same kind of setup.

Before the virus they wouldn't have even entertained the idea of someone working from home unless they were in absolutely zero doubt in terms of trust (i.e. the couple of people who had previously been entrusted to work from home as they were already doing so unpaid in the middle of the night)
 
Ha, truth. It seems to be very common, even to the point of being "normal"? Like, I don't mean to imply that we're superior, but it seems in our position of having a logical and methodical mindset we just can't quite "think down" to the average level of ineptitude. I say this half jokingly. But I think there's something odd about computers in particular, perhaps ingrained in people through decades of dodgy sci-fi, that makes people think if they press the wrong button something will blow up, and so even just a message saying "press ok" and a single ok button is something where they want your assurance that pressing ok won't result in all the magic smoke escaping.

OT now: We have processes within our system mapped out which are literally a set of Yes/No questions and OK buttons to proceed. Whenever a part of the process is changed or added to, people seem to want my team to make a visual guide. This consists of screenshots of every page with “if the answer is Yes, click ‘Yes’ and then click OK”. Why can’t they just read the question and answer it without us holding their hand?

I head the Quality Assurance team, so if someone makes a brain-dead error and there isn’t an official training guide available for a new Yes/No question, apparently I can’t put it on their performance record until we have given them at least a weeks worth of notice and additional training.

Then when it comes to photographs to go on a licence, we just want an acceptable clear headshot of someone but it doesn’t have to be an official passport booth picture, so long as it’s against a plain neutral background. I get maybe 10 questions a day asking me to analyse the background of a photo, because they seem to want me to issue a Dulux chart for every colour in existence to say what is and isn’t OK.
 
Let’s be honest, there’s a common misconception that people are productive in the office

that’s when we’re all at our worst

*refreshes Moopy and goes to the water cooler for the billionth time*
 
Ellie, your company sounds KAFKAESQUE :D
It didn’t used to be. They screwed up when they thought we were all about to lose our jobs and be outsourced about 7 years ago. A system was created that theoretically could be used by anyone with no training, only it over complicated everything, made it more expensive to run and longer to complete a process. So rather than having an office of 40 super knowledgable people who could do everything, now we have about 150 idiots who can only do one thing at a time.
 
we're apparently all getting 'special letters' to say we can be on the premises, whatever that means!

Oh, I've got one of those. It's in case the pigs get in my face. Although maybe you need a different one because your employer uses multiple buildings...
 
priti patel will be hosting the corona show later where she will lay out the 14 day quarantine scheme

those who fail to quarantine could receive fines of up to £1000
 
priti patel will be hosting the corona show later where she will lay out the 14 day quarantine scheme

those who fail to quarantine could receive fines of up to £1000

Getting to talk about PUNISHING THE SICK is probably the opportunity of a lifetime for our Prit.
 
I mean £1000 is probably going to deter the average Brit, but it’s not much if you’re rich, and I can’t see how it would be in any way enforceable.
 
Stop and searching anyone who looks sickly. Death by firing squad for anybody found to be carrying COVONIA.
 
Look guys, they've hauled her out a whole twice during the thing because she's utter shit. They've given her this one because she'll make a hash of it and then they can wind back and go "sorry, I know she SAID £1000, it's actually the very similar figure of £67.89".
 
I see pictures of the river Lea are splashed all over the papers! FFS I went there on Wednesday as I thought it’d be the only place in Hackney safe from the paparazzi!
 
I mean £1000 is probably going to deter the average Brit, but it’s not much if you’re rich, and I can’t see how it would be in any way enforceable.
They never enforce this kind of stuff as they rarely recover anything and probably lose more than £1000 in admin and legal appeals against them. It’s like the alleged £1000 penalty for not keeping your driving licence updated with correct details - I know loads of people who have gone for years without changing theirs and have never heard of these fines being issued.
 

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