AS5 E05: Snatch Game of Love

[Phoenix]

I think we can expect at least half of the AS6 lineup to be comprised of S12 queens. They’re very well regarded and never really got a fair crack of the whip career-wise, or a proper finale etc etc

I expect Asia will do the next All Stars, Kameron is another from season 10. Plastique and Akeria from season 11. Hopefully no Silly ever again.

 

[Sheena]

No way in hell they won’t have Silky back at some point...

 

[AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAaaaA]

From AS1, Shannel and Yara Sofia were both meant/asked to be on AS5 - Shannel said no (I think she said she isn't interested in competing any more) and Yara pulled out last minute as she said she didn't have enough time to prepare for the competition. This is probably how we got India cast as a last-minute replacement and why some of India's runway looks have only vaguely fit the theme (cough prom)

I'm glad we did get India though, she's been good value for cannon fodder. It's good to see Alexis without Yara for a season too. This is the first season I've LIKED Alexis and appreciated her drag. I found her a full-on irritant before.

I can definitely see them bringing back Ginger Minj, Tatiana and Coco Montrese from AS2 at some point and frankly, WHY NOT!

 

[RS]

Coco should be brought back for every season

 

[lolly]

If they don't use Coco as a lipsync assassin in AS5, I have no faith in them ever bringing her back.

 

[Berly]

The lipsync assassin is really missing the mark so far!

 

[Tisch]

What exactly is Pandora's story?

I don't think there is one per se, she's just been a bit outspoken about the raw deal she got on AS1 being paired with Mimi and is a bit miffed to not get asked back yet like Manila, Latrice etc. when they did her way more dirty.

Can't say I'm that fussed to have her back. I liked her way back in S2 but there's been much much funny/quirky queens since then.

 

[K.C.]

They should try to get some of the other Season 1 queens. Rebecca Glasscock plz.

 

[cwej]

Yeah she’s really overestimated the impact of it

The video is... completely pointless and bad

she overestimates her own importance in the majority of people’s lives. Most of us could not give a shit Cracker love.

 

[cwej]

Oh god you guys

overestimated the impact? It’s all some of you have been able to talk about! (For the fifth week running)

did I miss something really evil she did, because people are going out of their way to get her this season

I guess that’s fans/the internet/Moopy/gays for you

Hardly anyone had mentioned Cracker for the entire thread..?!

it was all about India, Alexis and then Jujubee and Shea...

Cracker basically irrelevant.

 

[cwej]

I think the problem with AllStars stems from series 2, where they basically put all the best queens in one mega season instead of spreading them out wisely.

No. Season 2 is exactly what an All Stars should look like.

Then you wait 5 years before you do the next one - so that when an All Stars happens it’s a massive event with queens that only made it to top 5 and were genuinely beloved.

 

[lolly]

I'd love to see Trinity K Bonet as an assassin as well. But she seems very much outside of the favoured circle if they are content using the Werq The World girls down to the level of Vanjie's lipsync skills.

 

[Berly]

No. Season 2 is exactly what an All Stars should look like.

Then you wait 5 years before you do the next one - so that when an All Stars happens it’s a massive event with queens that only made it to top 5 and were genuinely beloved.

This is my feeling too. If AS1 came after season 4 then AS2 should’ve been after 8, then we should only just be getting AS3 now after 12.

But given their approach is to run the well dry and pump things out fast and cheap, it’s no real surprise they don’t have the foresight/patience to not wreck their own franchise

 

[RS]

They have diluted the concept, but I’m still enjoying All Stars a lot. They should bring back the same queen and have them compete without being eliminated.

 

[Will]

But given their approach is to run the well dry and pump things out fast and cheap, it’s no real surprise they don’t have the foresight/patience to not wreck their own franchise

And to give poor Mama Ru a social media-deleting breakdown in the process

 

[Berly]

Imagine the pick of queens if we were only just getting AS3 now... I’d need to consider my choices

 

[RS]

Imagine the pick of queens if we were only just getting AS3 now... I’d need to consider my choices

Ooh

I tried to pick 10 queens but it quickly got too crowded. Safe to say, there wouldn’t be any space left for Farah Moan, Mariah etc to fill.

 

[Sheena]

But you NEED those middling to bottom queens in order for the others to shine and for people to feel like they’re getting a fair crack of the whip. Season 2 seeing Coco and Ginger go home as early as they did still seems to me like they’ve been short changed.

 

[VoR]

Also, sometimes queens who bombed their original seasons can surprise you, which is one of my favourite things. Who was excited for more Aja before Allstars 3?

 

[Cerro de Casa]

The lipsync assassin is really missing the mark so far!

This.

I mean, when someone says 'lipsync assassin' to me, the first three QUEENS I'd think of off the top of my head would be:

• Peppermint
• Trinity the Tuck
• Alaska

And yet we get... Vanjie

 

[VoR]

It's been said before already, but it's clearly just stealth promotion for Werk the World. None of those queens are on that tour as far as I know.

 

[RS]

I hope Cucu is the next assassin

 

[Sheena]

I also think the Lip Sync Assassins are entirely ok. They never said "IT'S THE BEST LIP SYNCERS EVER!", which would actually make things fairly one sided, if you think about it. It's just bringing back an old "favourite", which is fine.

 

[Generic Account]

This.

I mean, when someone says 'lipsync assassin' to me, the first three QUEENS I'd think of off the top of my head would be:

• Peppermint
• Trinity the Tuck K. Bonet
• Alaska

And yet we get... Vanjie

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Oh and Cracker >>> Trixie.

There I said it.

 

[ZenGiraffe]

Oh and Cracker >>> Trixie.

There I said it.

Who hurt you?

 

[AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAaaaA]

If they did All Stars every 2 years instead of every year we'd have line ups like AS2 and AS4 every time, HOWEVER as VoR said above I've quite enjoyed getting to see Aja, Derrick, Morgan, India (and others I can't remember right now) again - and they arguably would have been skipped over on less frequent seasons.

If they ever film AS6, there's enough blockbuster queens from seasons 10-12 already to fill a line up without really dipping into ARCHIVE queens so I'm assuming it will be another jam-packed cast for an even-All Stars.

 

[Cerro de Casa]

Who hurt you?

Spoiler

 

[straightorbroken]

Alternating between All Stars and a season of lower levelled legends (perhaps 1 for every 2) would be my wish.

 

[lolly]

But you NEED those middling to bottom queens in order for the others to shine and for people to feel like they’re getting a fair crack of the whip. Season 2 seeing Coco and Ginger go home as early as they did still seems to me like they’ve been short changed.

There's a middle ground between how frequently we are getting them and waiting long enough to get a stellar cast.

Or at least recycle those queens like Coco and Ginger who left All Stars early but who clearly have bags more potential than queens like Farrah Moan, India and Mariah.

 

[Berly]

If they ever film AS6, there's enough blockbuster queens from seasons 10-12 already to fill a line up without really dipping into ARCHIVE queens so I'm assuming it will be another jam-packed cast for an even-All Stars.

Thing is, whilst sometimes it works in their favour (Aja) I would genuinely much rather see some queens return after enough time out to have spent time honing their graft and growing as an artist.

So in conclusion, I don’t want them back one to two years after their original season.

 

[cwej]

At the moment there are nearly as many All Stars every year (10-ish?) as there are new contestants (13-14ish?) - so they will eventually have to recycle 75% of the queens... no other reality show does this. If a reality contestant is SHIT, generally they're left to FUCK OFF politely on their own and in most cases that's exactly what should happen. Harsh maybe, but would make for better TV.

 

[cwej]

Thing is, whilst sometimes it works in their favour (Aja) I would genuinely much rather see some queens return after enough time out to have spent time honing their graft and growing as an artist.

So in conclusion, I don’t want them back one to two years after their original season.

Exactly! The massive excitement about seeing Jujubee again basically 10 years later is so much more than seeing Miz fricking Cracker.

 

[K.C.]

Lol @ Coco having "potential". She's rubbish.

 

[cwej]

I adore Coco mostly for how rubbish she actually is

 

[Kala]

At the moment there are nearly as many All Stars every year (10-ish?) as there are new contestants (13-14ish?) - so they will eventually have to recycle 75% of the queens... no other reality show does this. If a reality contestant is SHIT, generally they're left to FUCK OFF politely on their own and in most cases that's exactly what should happen. Harsh maybe, but would make for better TV.

We would never have got the whole India drama this week though if this was the case. Plenty of people deserve a second chance for numerous reasons.

I think they’re only doing All Stars every year at the moment because the show is at its peak but I think that will likely come down and they’ll probably do less of them as time goes on. It’s looking unlikely there will be a main season this year never mind an All Stars season though.

 

[VoR]

There's a middle ground between how frequently we are getting them and waiting long enough to get a stellar cast.

Or at least recycle those queens like Coco and Ginger who left All Stars early but who clearly have bags more potential than queens like Farrah Moan, India and Mariah.

I think Mariah had great potential. Unfortunately the challenges really didn't play to her strengths.

 

[Berly]

The India stuff is only entertaining by the sub standards the show itself sets. It’s hardly the Alyssa face crack of the century mirror giggorama of AS2.

It amazes me how TV can’t grasp that a ‘pump it out whilst it’s hot, they’ll love any old shit’ mentality only leads to viewers going ‘this is a bit shit, I think I’ll watch something else’ and if they allowed an appetite for it to develop the peak would last a whole lot longer. It’s a typical case of rape the land and move on.

 

[Sheena]

God, why do people bother fucking WATCHING if all they’re going to do is over analyse and MOAN about everything? IT’S JUST A BIT OF FUN, TURN OVER AND WATCH SOMETHING ELSE IF IT GETS YOU SO UPSET.

This place is turning into REDDIT.

 

[Berly]

I quite happily watch it, I’m just aware it’s gradually becoming less and less... what it was... the debate is whether that’s a natural decline or an escalated one due to the conveyer belt production.