Coronavirus

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Are you worried about contracting coronavirus?

  • Yes, I am absolutely terrified

    Votes: 12 15.6%

  • Yes, I am slightly concerned

    Votes: 35 45.5%

  • I am neither concerned or unconcerned

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • No, I am slightly unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • No, I am totally unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • Bring back the old poll

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Charlotte Awbrey tits out doing the Macarena

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • I believe VoR is evil

    Votes: 11 14.3%
  • Total voters
    77
"For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death for yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm"

I know Biden is a flop, but QUEEN! anyway.

I wonder how long it will be until the population at large will twig that it's the unvaccinated holding everything back for everybody else (obviously speaking about countries lucky/rich enough to have a vaccine roll out for their population here).
I think in the UK the rise of omicron has really highlighted it. I can really see people starting to lose their patience with the anti-vax movement over the 12 months.
 
NUT ROAST said:
I think in the UK the rise of omicron has really highlighted it. I can really see people starting to lose their patience with the anti-vax movement over the 12 months.
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I just hope it also convinces the people who haven't had the vaccine for whatever reason and the penny drops for them as well. Because from my experience of client work, a lot of the unvaccinated aren't necessarily anti-vax as much as still ignorant and ill informed rather than rabidly anti vax. Obviously there really is absolutely no excuse for that now, but it clearly remains for a sizeable proportion of the population.

I've heard from a couple of local vaccination centres where I know GPs and nurses working over the last few days that they have seen a marked increase in the number of people going in for their first doses, which is a promising sign.
 
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From my mum anecdotally:

- Of the 20 occcupied beds in ICU in her hospital, 18 are unvaccinated.

- Despite the horrendous number of cases, the hospital is not under anywhere near the pressure it was this time last year. It's busy, but winter is always busy.

- People having their vaccinations, there is still a huge number having their first or second jab. They don't ask the reason why, they just jab 'em - same as what @lolly said above this at least suggests that the tide is turning for some of the reluctant people.
 
Merry Tischmas! said:
- People having their vaccinations, there is still a huge number having their first or second jab. They don't ask the reason why, they just jab 'em - same as what @lolly said above this at least suggests that the tide is turning for some of the reluctant people.
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FWIW I think this is the right thing to do (not ask them why). If they feel judged they might not come back
 
Merry Tischmas! said:
From my mum anecdotally:

- Of the 20 occcupied beds in ICU in her hospital, 18 are unvaccinated.

- Despite the horrendous number of cases, the hospital is not under anywhere near the pressure it was this time last year. It's busy, but winter is always busy.

- People having their vaccinations, there is still a huge number having their first or second jab. They don't ask the reason why, they just jab 'em - same as what @lolly said above this at least suggests that the tide is turning for some of the reluctant people.
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In Liverpool Royal, every single ICU patient is unvaccinated.
 
lolly said:
I just hope it also convinces the people who haven't had the vaccine for whatever reason and the penny drops for them as well. Because from my experience of client work, a lot of the unvaccinated aren't necessarily anti-vax as much as still ignorant and ill informed rather than rabidly anti vax. Obviously there really is absolutely no excuse for that now, but it clearly remains for a sizeable proportion of the population.

I've heard from a couple of local vaccination centres where I know GPs and nurses working over the last few days that they have seen a marked increase in the number of people going in for their first doses, which is a promising sign.
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Oh yes for sure, there's obviously a big gulf between people who have not been vaccinated due to ignorance/being uninformed, than people actively spreading anti-vax misinformation (and going on antivax marches, setting up stalls in SHOPPING CENTRES etc).

I guess for a lot of people who were nervous about the vaccine, seeing however many months on that vaccinated people haven't mutated into genetic cesspools (or whatever the fear is) it may make them question misinformation they may have gathered.
 
Merry Tischmas! said:
From my mum anecdotally:

- Of the 20 occcupied beds in ICU in her hospital, 18 are unvaccinated.

- Despite the horrendous number of cases, the hospital is not under anywhere near the pressure it was this time last year. It's busy, but winter is always busy.

- People having their vaccinations, there is still a huge number having their first or second jab. They don't ask the reason why, they just jab 'em - same as what @lolly said above this at least suggests that the tide is turning for some of the reluctant people.
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In my department at work, the only people coming to us with COVID are here for unrelated reasons and just happen to be positive at the time. We really aren’t feeling it in hospitals at the minute (well, maybe in London).

What DID surprise me was the amount of paramedics that aren’t vaccinated - there’s hundreds in this region alone. They’ve been told that they’ll all lose their jobs if they don’t get jabbed, and rightly so.
 
I've spoken to a few doctors and nurses from big London hospitals the past few weeks (I meet a lot of people at work!), and they've all said similar, that's they're busy but no where near what they were this time last year when they were on their knees.
 
Star said:
I've spoken to a few doctors and nurses from big London hospitals the past few weeks (I meet a lot of people at work!), and they've all said similar, that's they're busy but no where near what they were this time last year when they were on their knees.
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Exactly. This time last year if we saw people coming through with COVID, they’d probably be getting whisked off elsewhere and it’d be 50/50 whether or not they’d make it out the hospital. Right now, they’ll be seen, treated and on their way within a couple of hours.
 
Here Comes Soldi Claus said:
What DID surprise me was the amount of paramedics that aren’t vaccinated - there’s hundreds in this region alone. They’ve been told that they’ll all lose their jobs if they don’t get jabbed, and rightly so.
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Here they don't actually fire them, they suspend them until they do it, but it means they can't provide services to any patients or get paid in the meantime.
 
Here Comes Soldi Claus said:
What DID surprise me was the amount of paramedics that aren’t vaccinated - there’s hundreds in this region alone. They’ve been told that they’ll all lose their jobs if they don’t get jabbed, and rightly so.
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I cannot fathom why they're not taking the vaccine. Or the criticism about them losing their jobs.

Mandatory vaccinations are not a new thing for clinical staff. You're normally required to have Hepatitis A/B vaccines etc if there is a likelihood you'll be exposed to it in your job.
 
After my negative rapid test, my roommates rapid test just came back positive... I'm not really sure what to do now. I'll get my pcr back tomorrow, but even if its negative, I've been around her and have been re-exposed. My parents live nearby and want me to come there, but I don't want to expose them, since they're older and more vulnerable. Right now I'm staying in my room and wearing a mask if I go into a common space to get stuff
 
PranceRJN said:
FWIW I think this is the right thing to do (not ask them why). If they feel judged they might not come back
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Absolutely. I have occasionally lost my rag with the unvaccinated (strangers online, I don’t know anyone personally who is unvaxxed) but shaming them really is pointless, or at worst could make someone even less likely to take the vaccine.

Eventually, I think restricting the ability of those who could get the vax but choose not to to do things like go to cinemas and live events will be necessary. There always be some die-hard cunts but I think a lot of things the people lolly mentioned might be pushed over the edge by the inconvenience, although hopefully before.
 
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I'm not really sure what to do now. I'll get my pcr back tomorrow, but even if its negative, I've been around her and have been re-exposed. My parents live nearby and want me to come there, but I don't want to expose them, since they're older and more vulnerable. Right now I'm staying in my room and wearing a mask if I go into a common space to get stuff
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I would be afraid to go to my parents too. Is there any other option available? Maybe an airbnb or a hotel?
 
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I would be afraid to go to my parents too. Is there any other option available? Maybe an airbnb or a hotel?
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I mean yeah, but I don't really want to pay for it. Especially since cases are going up rapidly here, so I don't think this is the last time I'll be exposed
 
IT GOT BIMINI TOO :shock:

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I saw this doing the rounds on twitter yesterday.

My career of treating patients has ended
After more than three decades as a physician, the Q maniacs have succeeded in driving me out of providing care to patients. I, like many of my colleagues, am moving into medically-adjacent work, where we can continue to apply our training and decades off knowledge without ever having to come in contact with sick people.

I've been able to deal with the years of patients who attended Google Medical School, and the hours wasted explaining things such as why cinnamon cannot be used to treat diabetes, or that garlic and beetroot can't treat HIV. And Lord save me from essential oils.

COVID and Q finally proved to be the one of amateur "experts" that was too much for me. The horrific deaths are beyond what you might imagine. They emerge almost unrecognizable to their families. Since June, I have never seen a horrible case of someone who was vaccinated. I have seen people struggling to breathe through lungs that have hardened to near uselessness, begging us in their ignorance to give them the vaccine now. We can tell, almost without fail, which ones will die when they come through the door of the ICU, but we do everything in our power to keep them alive - BIPAP, ECMO, ventilator - knowing we are stretching out the inevitable. We use paralytics with ECMO and ventilators, then ease them off to see if they can function. And as the drugs wane, the look of terror emerges, the tears. We try to calm them, to swallow our desire to scream at them: This is your fault! This didn't have to happen! Often, their spouse or their uncle or neighbor is nearby, dying along with them. And we work hard for those rare cases where we can pull them back from the edge.

I could deal with all of that. What I can no longer handle is the screaming, not from the patients, but from the families. They are not screaming in anguish, or in recognition of how their foolishness has led them to this point. No, they are screaming at me. Because, you see, I am part of the global conspiracy to commit genocide. If only I would give 10,000 mg of Vitamin C - even though the body can only absorb a maximum of 100 mg a day, with the rest creating the world's most expensive urine - they would be saved. Or hydroxychloroquine. Or ivermectin. Those have never been studied, they assure me, and when I tell them they have been, they snap that I don't know what I'm talking about. I want, oh god I want, to tell them that if we are the ones responsible for killing their loved ones, then why the hell have they brought them to the hospital? Why throw them into our clutches? I know the answer: They know it is all lies. But their egos are so huge they cant bring themselves to admit it.

My breaking point came three weeks ago. I dealt with a particularly horrible case. This was a husband and father, 38 years old. A wife, two daughters, one son. All of age to get vaccinated, none vaccinated. If you could have seen his face, and the ravages left by both COVID and the time he spent prone on his stomach. An enormous clot kept reforming in his leg, and we had been forced to amputate his foot in hopes of keeping him alive. When he was awake, the look of terror in his eyes, the crying, the pain. It was nothing new. But the begging, over and over, "Don't let me die." And "Give me the vaccine." All I could tell him is "We won't let you" - although I never said we might not have any choice in the matter. And I told him, repeatedly, it was too late for the vaccine.

He begged me to bring in his family. A nurse called them, because they had never come to the hospital. They refused to wear masks, and so would not be admitted. The nurse told the wife that her husband was likely dying, and was begging to see them. All she cared about was masks. She would only come if she and her daughters didn't have to wear any.
The nurse came to me and told me the wife wanted to speak to me. I got on the phone and she ordered me to cure him with ivermectin and vitamin C & D. I explained to her, those do not work, they have been extensively studied and the amount of ivermectin needed to treat even mild COVID would kill a human being. Once again, I was told I was ignorant. I asked her to come down to the hospital, to bring her children, to at least wait outside. Somehow, she agreed.

The nurses were all busy, and I took over the role they usually perform, comforting the dying. I sat beside the man's bed. Through tears, he rasped out sounds I could vaguely understand as a question. I guessed at what he was asking, and assured him that yes, his family was coming. He was so frightened, and I could tell he knew death was unavoidable. I'm not religious, but I knew he was, and I talked about the comfort of Jesus as I held his hand. About a minute later, he coded. We tried to save him, but there was nothing to be done. He died.

Twenty minutes later, I heard from a nurse that the family was here, that they had made a ruckus down in the lobby demanding to be let upstairs without masks, and had been thrown out of the hospital. I consulted with a few colleagues who agreed to cover me so that i could speak to them in the parking lot. I took the elevator down, and asked security to point out the family that refused to wear masks. Fortunately, they had not left.

I stepped outside, went to the wife, and identified myself. I told her that I was sorry, that we had done everything we could, but her husband had passed a few minutes earlier. I did not manage to get the words of the sentence fully out of my mouth when I felt the fist strike my face and heard the screamed words "You murderer!" I fell backwards, tripped, and plopped onto the pavement, the back off my head striking asphalt. I vaguely heard the words being screamed about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and god knows what else. I heard "you could have saved him if you listened!" I tasted blood from the top of my lip. It took a moment to know it was seeping from my nose, which she had broken. My mask was getting wet, and thus useless. Security grabbed her. They were getting ready to call the police, but I knew if they did, I would become the next national target for the Q maniacs. I told them to just put her in her car. I wasn't going to press charges. I went back to the hospital.

I started looking for a new job the next day. I will never treat a patient again.

Thank God.
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Holy shit pretty much all of Moopy has it?

Only a matter of time I guess. This sucka is getting on for measles transmissibility. Good luck everyone...
 
I've been avoiding it so far even though I've been around a couple of people who have tested positive in the last weeks. maybe the antibodies from my last bout are still kicking? I hope so, I won't be able to get the booster till February
 
PranceRJN said:
I mean yeah, but I don't really want to pay for it. Especially since cases are going up rapidly here, so I don't think this is the last time I'll be exposed
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I meant in terms of whether they're asking for a PCR test these days but i went through the rules last night and they say we shouldn't be booking at all if we think we have been exposed.
 
Ludolph said:
The new 7 day isolation rule means I WILL be making it back for Christmas hopefully! My LFT this morning was neg, gonna do another tomorrow morning then I’m FREE :disco:
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When was your first positive lateral flow test?
 
Okay, I wondered if you were just glancing at it again later than that. Hopefully it's on the way out.
 
Yeah the fact it was faint and took a while to show up means the virus is a lot weaker than last week I think, when a BIG FAT LINE appeared almost INSTANTLY.
 
It’s not enough to save Christmas for me, but I might be allowed out on Boxing Day. Is anything open on Boxing Day :wired:
 
I'm off to the cinema this afternoon as I promised to take the great nieces to see Clifford. It all feels a little bit frivolous though. But then I've still got to work, get public transport and go to a funeral tomorrow. I guess it's just a case of being as sensible as I can and testing every morning.
 
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