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A THONG FOR EUROPE

 

Major changes to how the voting in the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 will work have been announced by organizers, the European Broadcasting Union (EBU).​


  • Only viewer votes will decide countries qualifying from Semi-Finals
  • Viewers in non-participating countries will be able to vote online
  • Jury votes will, as before, be combined with viewer votes to decide final result

The countries that qualify from the two Semi-Finals, 10 from each, will now be decided solely based on the votes cast by viewers of the competition, rather than a combination of a jury and public vote as has been the case since 2009.

And, for the first time ever, those watching in countries not taking part in the competition will also be able to vote for their favourite songs online.

Their votes will be added together and converted to points that will have the same weight as one participating country in both of the Semi-Finals and the Grand Final.

Professional juries, made up of those working in the music industry, will continue to contribute to the result of the Grand Final along with viewers in each country taking part and those voting internationally.

Martin Österdahl, the Eurovision Song Contest’s Executive Supervisor said:
Throughout its 67-year history the Eurovision Song Contest has constantly evolved to remain relevant and exciting. These changes acknowledge the immense popularity of the show by giving more power to the audience of the world’s largest live music event.

In 2023 only Eurovision Song Contest viewers will decide which countries make it to the Grand Final and, reflecting the global impact of the event, everyone watching the show, wherever they live in the world, can cast their votes for their favourite songs.

By also involving juries of music professionals in deciding the final result, all the songs in the Grand Final can be assessed on the broadest possible criteria. We can also maintain the tradition of travelling around Europe and Australia to collect points and ensure a thrilling voting sequence with the winner only revealed at the very end of the show.

Audiences in all participating countries will still be able to vote by SMS, phone or via the Eurovision Song Contest app.
Those watching in the rest of the world will be able to vote via a secure online platform using a credit card from their country.
Following the unprecedented nature of the voting irregularities seen at the 2022 Contest a working group of EBU Members was established to look at ways to protect the integrity of the event. Its recommendations were then approved by the Reference Group, the Contest’s governing board and the Executive Board of the EBU.

Public broadcasters from 37 countries will compete to win the 67th Eurovision Song Contest in Liverpool on 9, 11 and 13 May.
31 countries will compete for 20 places in the Grand Final alongside France, Germany, Italy, Spain, hosts the United Kingdom and 2022 winner Ukraine. A full list of participating nations and broadcasters can be found here.

The competition is being hosted by the BBC in the UK on behalf of Ukraine following Kalush Orchestra’s win for their country in Turin in May 2022.
 
OOOOH

I've been saying for years that they should keep Juries out of the semi finals. More fun songs and fewer ballads getting dragged through!
 
If only televotes had decided the 2022 semi results, Albania and Cyprus would have been in the final over Switzerland and Azerbaijan. I'd happily take that!

Yeah they clearly did this because Azerbaijan qualified to the final with 0 votes from the public.
 
2021
IN

Croatia (Tick Tock)
Denmark (Fyr og flamme)

OUT
Albania (Karma)
Belgium (The Wrong Place)


2019
IN

Poland (Fire of Love)
Lithuania (Run with the Lions)

OUT
Belarus (I Like It)
Denmark (Love is Forever)


2018
IN

Greece (Oniro mou)
Poland (Light me Up)

OUT
Albania (Mall)
Netherlands (Outlaw In 'Em)


2017
IN

Finland (Blackbird)
Estonia (Verona :disco: )
Switzerland (Apollo)

OUT
Australia (Don't Come Easy)
Austria (Running on Air)
Denmark (Where I Am)

2016
IN

Bosnia & Herzegovina (Ljubav je)
North Macedonia (Dona)
Belarus (Help You Fly)

OUT
Czech Republic (I Stand)
Georgia (Midnight Gold)
Israel (Made of Stars)


I don't love all of those trade-outs (Poor BIG ANG :() but on balance clearly more good than bad!
 
2021
IN

Croatia (Tick Tock)
Denmark (Fyr og flamme)

OUT
Albania (Karma)
Belgium (The Wrong Place)


2019
IN

Poland (Fire of Love)
Lithuania (Run with the Lions)

OUT
Belarus (I Like It)
Denmark (Love is Forever)


2018
IN

Greece (Oniro mou)
Poland (Light me Up)

OUT
Albania (Mall)
Netherlands (Outlaw In 'Em)


2017
IN

Finland (Blackbird)
Estonia (Verona :disco: )
Switzerland (Apollo)

OUT
Australia (Don't Come Easy)
Austria (Running on Air)
Denmark (Where I Am)

2016
IN

Bosnia & Herzegovina (Ljubav je)
North Macedonia (Dona)
Belarus (Help You Fly)

OUT
Czech Republic (I Stand)
Georgia (Midnight Gold)
Israel (Made of Stars)


I don't love all of those trade-outs (Poor BIG ANG :() but on balance clearly more good than bad!
For me I'm not sure these are net improvements overall, but it varies year by year.
 
I like the way this will add a bit more jeopardy in the final, as there's more chance that a qualifier will get a poor result under a different voting system rather than the bottom song being almost guaranteed to be Big 5/host.
 
This may well tempt Turkey back too (is it too late for them to be announced as a surprise comeback for next year, I wonder?)

No jury drag and another big vote from the global diaspora? They'd arguably benefit from this more than any other country.
 
2021
IN

Croatia (Tick Tock)
Denmark (Fyr og flamme)

OUT
Albania (Karma)
Belgium (The Wrong Place)


2019
IN

Poland (Fire of Love)
Lithuania (Run with the Lions)

OUT
Belarus (I Like It)
Denmark (Love is Forever)


2018
IN

Greece (Oniro mou)
Poland (Light me Up)

OUT
Albania (Mall)
Netherlands (Outlaw In 'Em)


2017
IN

Finland (Blackbird)
Estonia (Verona :disco: )
Switzerland (Apollo)

OUT
Australia (Don't Come Easy)
Austria (Running on Air)
Denmark (Where I Am)

2016
IN

Bosnia & Herzegovina (Ljubav je)
North Macedonia (Dona)
Belarus (Help You Fly)

OUT
Czech Republic (I Stand)
Georgia (Midnight Gold)
Israel (Made of Stars)


I don't love all of those trade-outs (Poor BIG ANG :() but on balance clearly more good than bad!
Nothing of value is lost, and so much gained as a result :disco: :disco: :disco:
 
I am fine with losing an Anja from Denmark every few years for a whole plethora of TASTY TREATS judging by that list above.
I do recall this year Switzerland and Azerbeijan (along with Australia) were moments people REALLY lost interest at the party I was at.

The more time goes on the more I'm convinced Albina was one of THE most robbed non-qualifiers of all time. It may have been correct as to the rules at the time that she didn't go through, but still doesn't make it MORALLY RIGHT!
 
Mall wouldn’t have qualified under the new system? Kill it with fire.
 
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I wonder what happens to the Jury finals though? Still have them in as rehearsals and a chance for fans to see the show? The energy might be a fair bit lower given they're now essentially zero stakes for the performers...
 
I wonder what happens to the Jury finals though? Still have them in as rehearsals and a chance for fans to see the show? The energy might be a fair bit lower given they're now essentially zero stakes for the performers...
They’ll still need juries for a back-up vote. I wonder if San Marino will have a jury vote in the semis too instead of that confusing aggregate televote.
 
What on Earth? :D

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This has already been the case with San Marino’s “televote” for years - and many people have tried to back-calculate the result and nobody can work out how it’s done :D if I remember correctly, this made up set of votes has already changed a qualifier once (Hungary over Latvia in 2018)
 
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2021
IN

Croatia (Tick Tock)
Denmark (Fyr og flamme)

OUT
Albania (Karma)
Belgium (The Wrong Place)


2019
IN

Poland (Fire of Love)
Lithuania (Run with the Lions)

OUT
Belarus (I Like It)
Denmark (Love is Forever)


2018
IN

Greece (Oniro mou)
Poland (Light me Up)

OUT
Albania (Mall)
Netherlands (Outlaw In 'Em)


2017
IN

Finland (Blackbird)
Estonia (Verona :disco: )
Switzerland (Apollo)

OUT
Australia (Don't Come Easy)
Austria (Running on Air)
Denmark (Where I Am)

2016
IN

Bosnia & Herzegovina (Ljubav je)
North Macedonia (Dona)
Belarus (Help You Fly)

OUT
Czech Republic (I Stand)
Georgia (Midnight Gold)
Israel (Made of Stars)


I don't love all of those trade-outs (Poor BIG ANG :() but on balance clearly more good than bad!

Yeah a mixed bag looking down their lists -
About as many great saves as great losses -
Until I got to 2017 and :disco:
 
Although I can't say I'm too impressed at losing "I Like It".

It's not a perfect swap but definitely better on balance. The fact that the gorgeous "Blackbird", which you'd think was pure jury bait, gets through on the new system is weird, and supports the argument.

It saves a lot more fan faves overall at the expense of more turgid/twee/insufferable balladry so it's a good call
 
I think looking at the list of winners for the final with just public voting it's hard to argue it wouldn't be better that way either (thinking of Keiino mostly) but I'd miss the drama and stakes of it all
 

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