Neighbours DEAD (again)

I didn’t realise the episode was directed by Scott Major who played Darren Stark (after leaving Heartbreak High).

He was actually in the episode as Lucas Fitzgerald (his stint as Darren was only as a guest before the role was recast). He was given a permanent role as Lucas in the late 00's and hung around for a good 5 years or so.



Enjoying reading a lot of bitter articles today from actors / actresses who weren't invited back. David Clencie (Danny Ramsay) claims Shane's return story was all his idea, Craig McLachlan (Henry Ramsay) has posted a bizarre video rant about cancel culture, and Nicola Charles (Sarah Beaumont) has given an interview laughing at "theatre school level" acting!
 
I thought the ending (or is it?) of Susan and Izzy’s relationship was perfect, and much in the vein of when Natalie left the first time. Susan ultimately pities Izzy but she’s never going to give her the acceptance she craves but doesn’t deserve.

But also :D :D :D at the ‘did you slip on some milk again and lose your memory?’

That line was everything :D

Yes they wrote Susan perfectly in her exchanges with Izzy - especially the whole, "oh Isabelle, you need to learn to like yourself, otherwise you'll never be happy". Delivered with pity but always keeping Susan dignified and never giving her what she wants. They really have played a blinder with that story arc.

And I love that it effectively ends with Izzy realising all of this but ultimately showing hints that she's just as likely to do it ALL OVER AGAIN
 
I can't get this out of my head now, I feel disproportionately sad for the demise of something I'd not bothered with for years. It was just comforting knowing it was there without thinking about it, like oxygen.

And makes you realise how fragile soaps are and will soon become. I guess Hollyoaks is next in reality
 
It really was brilliant. I could watch it again and again.

Lou was the omission - he is 84 so maybe just didn’t fancy it in the same way Ian Carpenter did (also over 80).

Smith.

Harold seems to have changed very little in the intervening years.
 
I can't get this out of my head now, I feel disproportionately sad for the demise of something I'd not bothered with for years. It was just comforting knowing it was there without thinking about it, like oxygen.

And makes you realise how fragile soaps are and will soon become. I guess Hollyoaks is next in reality

Both Eastenders and Coronation Street have been around for the duration of my life but I just don't have the emosh attachment to those that I did with Neighbours.
 
Hollyoaks seems the obvious next victim - I assume they're only getting by because they pay their actors so little that they resort to OnlyFans

I really would be surprised if any of our soap operas are still standing in their current format in 20 years time. Maybe Corrie at a push - I could imagine reluctance to give up that "brand" even if the numbers stop stacking up.
 
I don't mean this in any way as shade, and I can totally see the appeal of revisiting this one now that it's ending, but it has always surprised me how many Moopy posters still appear to follow Eastenders and/or to a lesser extent Coronation Street regularly. If not for Moopy I would exclusively associate regular soap watching with my parents generation and up.
 
Hollyoaks seems the obvious next victim - I assume they're only getting by because they pay their actors so little that they resort to OnlyFans

I really would be surprised if any of our soap operas are still standing in their current format in 20 years time. Maybe Corrie at a push - I could imagine reluctance to give up that "brand" even if the numbers stop stacking up.
I think 20 years is optimistic - the way things are moving, I'd say 10 years is more realistic.
 
Comparing the figures this week to those three years ago for the soaps

Coronation St down 1.457m (23%)
Emmerdale down 1.302m (23%)
EastEnders down 1.686m (36%)
Copied from my TV ratings thread.

Bearing in mind EastEnders started from a lower figure anyway, I really struggle to see how the BBC can continue to justify pumping money into it as a prime time show for much longer.
 
Eastenders takes itself too seriously and frankly the writing is not up to par for that.

At least Neighbours had its tongue buried firmly in its cheek.
 
I watched the last 15 minutes again this morning and cried all over again. It was the most perfect way to complete the show, and I shall hold Neighbours dear in my heart forevermore.
 
Eastenders takes itself too seriously and frankly the writing is not up to par for that.

At least Neighbours had its tongue buried firmly in its cheek.
Neighbours was always very good at laughing at itself. Like Eddie I wouldn’t care if the UK soaps ended - those were something my parents watched. Neighbours was OURS.

I suspect a good part of the reason Eastenders is still on at all is the money invested in the new set.
 
I was a bit bewildered yesterday as to why Kylie got to say so very little but her and Jason just being there was all that was needed.
 
Yeah, I honestly didn't need any lines from Kylie. The scene where she gazed at the location of her entrance into the show was enough for me.

Scott and Charlene really had to show up though.
 
I still watch the soaps, as in I follow what is happening but they are mostly just on in the background these days if I am watching them live. I rarely catch up on episodes now although I do have them on series link just incase something exciting happens.
 
Hollyoaks seems the obvious next victim - I assume they're only getting by because they pay their actors so little that they resort to OnlyFans

I really would be surprised if any of our soap operas are still standing in their current format in 20 years time. Maybe Corrie at a push - I could imagine reluctance to give up that "brand" even if the numbers stop stacking up.

This is another topic really, but for me it just became ridiculous to keep up with that many episodes of all those soaps. Emmerdale was always my favourite and I've even given up on that. I suspect I'll tune in for the 50th anniversary in October. I do think long term survival of the UK big 3 at least would help by reducing episodes so we get tighter, better written stories and a sense of looking forward to things, but TV channels will never do that as long as it keeps bringing in ad revenue, even if the cost of that is ever diminishing returns to the point of their eventual death.

But equally I guess soaps have run their distance. Some of the best episodes especially early days Corrie, had NOTHING happen but idle chit chat between brilliant characters. I don't know if that can work in this climate, maybe a small core audience if expectations aren't high and it's not expected to be the main focus of a channel every single day which is frankly exhausting.

There's probably also a sense of soaps having completed their cycle. Once you have a plane crash and Richard Hillman etc, where do you go next? Everything is recycled. A shame really because in true kitchen sink drama form there are always stories to tell of people affected by current goings on, e.g Brexit, the government in general, cost of living. Even a simple affair can still be powerful (Doctor Foster proved that) as a device if the writing is good but it so rarely is, characters are changed on a whim, stories often stem from plot rather than character (e.g let's pick character X and give them storyline Z kind of writing) before being ruined entirely. It all ends up with lazy, sloppy television and these days people don't need to bother. A lot more choice and ultimately better options.

I really feel a sense of greed has killed them and also an all too frequent lack of anything relatable. Some of the problem is likely a lack of real life connection from the writers. Once upon time we had no choice but now we do. Which makes me sad and doesn't mean I won't ever watch again of course but I struggle to see why ANYONE young these days would need to bother
 
I actually thought the lack of Charlene lines came across as really odd and distracting especially as Scott was given a few (ineffectual) lines. I understand they didn’t want to be the focus but even those who sent video messages to the guy who got married said more.

Haven’t seen the show in years and didn’t know who most were but the vintage throwbacks were cute.
 
Scott's lines did not seem scripted - which suggests that they were never really planned. I'm grateful that Kylie didn't bother with adlibs since Jason's were just waffle.
 
Kylie saying little seemed odd just because Jason had a few lines. But it's such a minor niggle. Her moment with the window meant more than an inane line.
 
Yeah I wasn't a fan of Kylie's silent but giggling and slightly manic energy vibe either. Of course it wouldn't have taken away anything from the finale, that was quite evident, if anything it was totally jarring her not speaking in those scenes.

:D at the suggestion it was for accent reasons. This was a Neighbours finale that had Phillip Martin sitting in the street for NO REASON AT ALL, Kylie could have had a full Spanish accent and it would have made no difference
 
I felt it was more CLUTCHING AT STRAWS but please carry on Alan Carr.
In all honesty, costume and hairstyle aside, I get the impression she didn't know how to inhabit the character again. Who really knows? We'll never will. It really doesn't matter.

I suppose she could have channelled this:

 
There’s not much scope for inhabiting a character when you’re pretty much playing a mute for 3 minutes.
 
Watching it again and if anything I'm sobbing more today than I did yesterday. It's the Mike and Jane scenes revisiting the houses that set me off. I can't believe I'm crying at the sight of Mrs Mangel. Daphne has almost finished me off.
 
I'd forgotten how much I loved Dorothy Burke. When I say forgotten, I can't actually remember if I did or not, but I remember the character and her ways very well so I'm assuming I must have done. The actress is 80 now but I think was memorable enough for a brief return if it was possible

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Mike and Jane = couple goals. It wasn't so much the writing but the performances, the history and the sense of opportunities lost and roads not taken.
 
It still feels somewhat surreal that it's finished. I assumed it would remain a TV staple for a while yet, despite not watching it. I suppose that was the problem.
 

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