Reform UK

ExcitableWoof said:
Well will you look at that. I feel like, and some will think me premature, but I feel like we are coming out of the UK's 30-40 year cycle of staring down into the abyss of rightwing populism. It isn't who we are - not by far. And as Reform and Restore become more and more comedy punchlines, so we start to move away from that. I realise we are far from solving our problems - as is the Earth in general - there are few countries solving long term problems after all - but - this is life - and we need to push through that together, and face that together, and not look for someone to blame - because that gets us exactly nowhere. So, fuckity bye bye to Reform's electoral moment - it will splutter for a few more years, but that turkey is well on the way to being cooked.
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I desperately hope this doesn't age badly.
 
I'd also say I wouldn't really call it a 30-40 year cycle. It's definitely got much, much worse the last decade - I wouldn't say we were staring down the abyss of it for a good few decades before the 2010s.

Things are starting to look up at the minute, but it really is an astonishingly bad development that the open, unashamed white supremacism on Restore levels is now just publicly acceptable again. We really need to get back to repairing societal norms.
 
Farage appearing to implode is obviously deeply satisfying, but even if he takes Reform down with him, he’s influenced the Tories to tack sharply to the right and facilitated the mainstreaming of a full-blown facist party in Restore.

We ain’t out of the woods yet.
 
there's not going to be a time when the right are today's moderate Tories again. the shift to the right globally is a clear and direct result of late stage capitalism and the constant enshittification of life under a broken model. the system has created it and it will remain like this for as long as rampant capitalism and money worship remains the dominant force in society.

some countries may elect a left government but overall politics, the public and the discourse exist on a spectrum of somewhat left to very far right and it's hard to see that changing at all.
 
There’s no repairing societal norms until the tech industry is replaced of its bro geeks and we have leaders who recognise that responsible censorship and barriers on social media are not just a good thing, they are crucial to a functioning society.

There does seem to be a very strong parallel between the time that Musk took over X and Meta removed their filters and censor controls - right before the Trump/Harris election - that things really went south. It really wasn’t that long ago that seeing something racist or homophobic was shocking and people were reported and dealt with quickly. Now prejudice isn’t just the norm, it’s the default. You can’t fix or heal attitudes towards these things when the most dominant form of media is a Wild West of the worst kinds of bigotry.
 
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It shows you how pathetic they are. We can't talk about anything without these weirdos dragging everything round to their obsessions.
 
This little prick :basil: Does he get triggered every time it rains while the sun's out?
Shockingly he's not Reform... he's Restore of course.

 
let the ordinary man sit down in peace in an unbranded environment directly next to the M&S Outlet!!!
 
Why does Owain Clatworthy sound like the name of a character in Viz in the 90s?
 
I honestly cannot be arsed to watch this all the way through - i've skimmed it but i can't actually tell what on Earth he is suggesting - also the almost inaudible but unceasing sunday teatime drama piano music is absolutely doing my nut in.
 
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