Taylor Swift - The Life of a Showgirl (12th album) (1 Viewer)

But no that many extra people didn’t show up cause the average fan bought about 30 copies and it includes streaming.

shut up.
 
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It has hit me that Ophelia sounds.....like a lot of other songs. Someone pointed out Jessie J's Domino and this past weekend, I caught myself singing Demi Lovato's chorus for Give Your Heart a Break over this one; also, some parts sound eerily similar to Lana Del Rey's Summertime Sadness, Finally, every time it comes on, the intro sounds just like Teddy Swims' Bad Dream. Queen of similarity.
 
Pipo said:
It has hit me that Ophelia sounds.....like a lot of other songs. Someone pointed out Jessie J's Domino and this past weekend, I caught myself singing Demi Lovato's chorus for Give Your Heart a Break over this one; also, some parts sound eerily similar to Lana Del Rey's Summertime Sadness, Finally, every time it comes on, the intro sounds just like Teddy Swims' Bad Dream. Queen of similarity.
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I don't know why but the intro reminds me of Wrecking Ball.
 
supermassive said:
She's the female Michael Jackson in terms of impact now.
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She is actually the female Starbucks Coffee, because she's become inescapable through sheer VOLUME and shoving herself onto every street corner whether you want her or not, and she's also not an artist but a corporation, and her fans consumers all consider pumpkin spice very exciting.
 
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supermassive said:
She's the female Michael Jackson in terms of impact now.
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in terms of impact i feel like MJ must have been way bigger since he has more iconic looks, hooks, and memorabilia.

in terms of sales and commercial success she is certainly bigger - in an anachronistic way. MJ' sales weren’t insane compared to contemporaries like Elvis, The Beatles, or Madonna. Tay''s dominance is unmatched, she's playing in different fields.
 
As someone who listens to only female artists, I just don’t really GEL with Taylor, I guess it’s the same way I have always been with Madonna. (Yes I know I am ridiculous).
 
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That’s a bit of a hollow stat, if accurate, given that the Hot 100 was basically an airplay chart from 2001 to 2005 after the physical single went extinct and before they started counting digital. Pure sales never made an impact that era aside from the odd American Idol release or 99 cent discount :eyes:

Did Taylor not release on iTunes or digital stores or something? or restrict to album only purchases?
 
POP! said:
That’s a bit of a hollow stat, if accurate, given that the Hot 100 was basically an airplay chart from 2001 to 2005 after the physical single went extinct and before they started counting digital. Pure sales never made an impact that era aside from the odd American Idol release or 99 cent discount :eyes:

Did Taylor not release on iTunes or digital stores or something? or restrict to album only purchases?
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It’s also worth noting that airplay only songs were hot 100 ineligible until late 1998. Don’t Speak, Iris, Torn etc. would have likely joined the club and hit #1 off airplay alone given that they spent months at #1 on radio but were never commercially released. The latter two eventually charted due to the rule change, but long after their peak.
 
POP! said:
That’s a bit of a hollow stat, if accurate, given that the Hot 100 was basically an airplay chart from 2001 to 2005 after the physical single went extinct and before they started counting digital. Pure sales never made an impact that era aside from the odd American Idol release or 99 cent discount :eyes:

Did Taylor not release on iTunes or digital stores or something? or restrict to album only purchases?
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Yes, all of the tracks were "album only" for the first week
 
POP! said:
That’s a bit of a hollow stat, if accurate, given that the Hot 100 was basically an airplay chart from 2001 to 2005 after the physical single went extinct and before they started counting digital. Pure sales never made an impact that era aside from the odd American Idol release or 99 cent discount :eyes:

Did Taylor not release on iTunes or digital stores or something? or restrict to album only purchases?
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They’re all hollow stats :D

First song by a female to reach number 3 in 2 days in January on a Wednesday on an album released in August.
 
I don't know how many people actually buy ALL the formats. I've never bought any more than one copy of any Taylor Swift album and I'm a release-date-purchase level fan. Of course social media amplifies the "buys absolutely everything" stans but how many of them are there, really?
 
From my knowledge of Abba loondom, I suspect it's relatively few who buy everything, but a significant amount who buy multiple.
 
Shoat said:
I don't believe for a minute that the short tracklisting isn't simply a cover for a 35-track deluxe edition that will come two months later.
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I can't believe how right and how wrong I was. Two months my ass.

I would assume credit card limits prevent most people from buying the complete set. But there definitely has to be a significant number buying multiple. Taking the UK as an example, Showgirl sold almost 150k in its first week than Tortured Poets did last year. I can't imagine she's really lured in 150,000 more fans with her Bugsy Malone cosplay, especially without promoting a lead single.
 
lolly said:
From my knowledge of Abba loondom, I suspect it's relatively few who buy everything, but a significant amount who buy multiple.
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Yeah, I think that's right. It's quite easy to get people to buy a few copies using bundles - I've done that.
 
Shoat said:
I would assume credit card limits prevent most people from buying the complete set. But there definitely has to be a significant number buying multiple. Taking the UK as an example, Showgirl sold almost 150k in its first week than Tortured Poets did last year. I can't imagine she's really lured in 150,000 more fans with her Bugsy Malone cosplay, especially without promoting a lead single.
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I genuinely think it's the shorter album getting more repeat streams. The formats to the shops were the same but she did those CDs on the Saturday that would have reeled in a certain audience.
 
octophone said:
I genuinely think it's the shorter album getting more repeat streams. The formats to the shops were the same but she did those CDs on the Saturday that would have reeled in a certain audience.
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Less than a fifth of Taylor's sales (UK) came from streaming apparantly - she'd have still easily snatched #1, but it's very much physicals pushing her to the record-breaking heights.
 
That would take around only 4,400 people in the UK buying every one of the 34 formats to make up those 150,000 extra sales.

Judging by the size of her Trump-esque cult 4.4k of total loons with the budget is entirely possible.
 
I imagine the numbers would be on par with reputation without the insane variants. I’m sure 99% of the purchasers did not buy more than 1-2 variants but the loons that bought 10+ would have inflated the overall sales by 2 million or so even if they only represented 5% or less of the total 4 million. Or the fraction of the fans that bought 2 would have still boosted the sales by another million. All conjecture of course.
 
The counter argument is of course that everyone is doing variants and supply and demand etc. And pure sales are ultimately more profitable than streams anyway, so success. But this is a step beyond. At least release all variants upfront so fans can make an educated choice of what they want instead of being coaxed into another variant or acoustic bonus days later.

If anything, when the hype dies down with subsequent albums, the decline will be more staggering than it would otherwise when her benchmark is 4 million. Not that it should be, but knowing her it will bother her to be perceived as that.
 
Let's take KYLIE as an example- she's ludicrously over varianted, but I can SEE the point- she's not going to break even otherwise. I still think it's wrong, but the INSANE levels here are just a major record label scamming a fandom that will lap everything up and the constant "HERE'S ANOTHER ONE" is just a completely rotten scam. It really leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
 
If one only needs 4,400 fans and a range of different coloured feather boas to get to a stupid selling number one album, can someone wake the Cheeky Girls from their slumber and into the photo booth STAT?
 
Again, I think the likelihood that this is a small fanbase going into overdrive is lower than some of you think. Consider also that this is her first album after one of the most successful tours of all time. She is at a peak of sorts here. She does sell a lot of physical product and she's been on the formatting train for a long time - 'folklore' came in 8 different covers/colours and that was on vinyl and CD./ I agree that the total amount of variants over the release week was silly but with every other artist playing the same game, I don't think she can be singled out this easily. TLOAS does demonstrate that there needs to be some kind of restriction on all of this because it has gone out of all control but this is far from the first album to demonstrate this.
 
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i don't get how honey is the least streamed track. the bridge had me SOBBING the first time

when anyone called me late night
he was screwing around with me my mind
asking "what are you wearing?"
too high to remember in the morning
and when anyone called me "lovely"
they were finding ways not to praise me
but you say it like you're in awe of me
and you stay until the morning
 
Projected to drop 92% in week 2 (in units) and 97% in pure sales (110k pure sales projected) surely time for another variant :eyes:

Hits Daily Double:

After her massive 4.005m chart debut, Taylor Swiftholds at #1 for a second week with The Life of a Showgirl, projected to add another 345k units. Republic will once again dominate the top of the chart, on track to claim the Top 3 spots this week.
Elsewhere, TWICE is expected to score the week's top debut at #11 with TEN: The Story Goes On (JYP/Imperial/Republic), while Not for Radio's Melt(Nice Life/Atlantic) is on track to open at #20.
 
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