Tori Amos - In Times of Dragons (New album)

[Jark]

I haven't listened properly yet, but I do have a bit of a problem with some of the lyrics. I just find them a bit... trite? On the nose? Part of Tori's appeal for me has been about deciphering the lyrics and her fantasical imagery.

I understand. I had this problem at first with Shush although to be fair the most on the nose part is a direct Peter Thiel quote. agreed for some songs though. I'm not sure how her lyricism has been on recent albums but sometimes it works here and sometimes I'd like more to decode

 

[Iguana]

I understand. I had this problem at first with Shush although to be fair the most on the nose part is a direct Peter Thiel quote. agreed for some songs though. I'm not sure how her lyricism has been on recent albums but sometimes it works here and sometimes I'd like more to decode

I feel like she became quite literal from The Beekeeper and then got more and more so. Night of Hunters in particular.

 

[FannyFaudrey]

When the actual music is as good as this is, it doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve always been way more into melodies and production than lyrics anyway.

 

[jivafox]

You would say that.......FANNY FAUDREY!

 

[Iguana]

OVER THE OCEAN
OVER THE SEA
FANNY FEMINIST
FROM THE NINETEENTH CENTURY!

 

[Mark R 3]

Compared to all her chart positions even going back to 1992 this is really quite good!

It sure is! Her highest charting album in 12 years.

 

[Debbie Jellinsky]

23 Peaks really is gorgeous.

 

[Jark]

the ghost of Anne Boleyn sounds like a NEEDY BITCH! (fabulous excerpt from a brief but fun interview in Rolling Stone)

Spoiler: full thing

 

[Mark R 3]

Does anyone know where the album charted in the US?

 

[straightorbroken]

I looked up Lilith Fair recently when Luscious Jackson were posting clips of their own stint on it. Had no idea it was so short-lived and then had an ill-faired brief comeback.

 

[Jark]

Does anyone know where the album charted in the US?

should be known this time tomorrow - but I read that a lot of vinyl retailers had stocking problems () ie. it was too expensive for them to stock so I wouldn't expect a great result!

 

[straightorbroken]

In times of stocking issues

 

[FannyFaudrey]

Album of the week on BBC Radio 2 this week!

 

[straightorbroken]

Well top 5 in Scotland. Top 10 in Germany. Happy to declare the entire era a huge success now.

 

[Jark]

why does Scotland have its own album chart when those figures are included in the UK chart?

#5 Scotland
#6 Germany
#10 Switzerland
#13 UK
#14 Austria
#15 Belgium
#168 France

I would assume touring in Europe just before the album release has paid off

 

[straightorbroken]

It was to help promote a singer called Märy Kiäni when she went solo and it stuck.

When I Call Your Name
Scotland #3
UK #18

 

[Mark R 3]

why does Scotland have its own album chart when those figures are included in the UK chart?

#5 Scotland
#6 Germany
#10 Switzerland
#13 UK
#14 Austria
#15 Belgium
#168 France

I would assume touring in Europe just before the album release has paid off

Yep definitely touring before the album and still touring Europe now seems to have paid off.

 

[Mark R 3]

23 Peaks really is gorgeous.

It is. The whole album is wonderful.

 

[FannyFaudrey]

It is. The whole album is wonderful.

It's in my top 5 Tori albums for sure.

 

[Jark]

#10 on top album sales on Billboard. seems to have missed the top 200 overall

 

[Mark R 3]

Shush, Provincetown, Songs Of Sorrow and 23 Peaks are my faves.

 

[Mark R 3]

#10 on top album sales on Billboard. seems to have missed the top 200 overall

Maybe it can chart when the tour picks up in the US.

 

[Mark R 3]

So just to confirm, this album didn't chart at all in America?

 

[Jark]

it didn't chart but it did shart. some are saying we're witnessing the machinations of the billionaire lizard demon who has corrupted the billboard 200. but who knows.

 

[Iguana]

I'm having a classic Tori YouTube evening

Winter from 1991
Precious Things and Cornflake Girl from 2003

Why not!

 

[Jark]

share some classic perfs!

 

[Iguana]

These are the two I've been especially feeling tonight!

 

[jivafox]

 

[Jark]

watching these asap! (not Orange Knickers - even the screengrab is telling me don't)

 

[Jark]

I've been taking my time with Dragons but after today's play through I think I'm ready to declare Stronger Together top 3 on the album. it's lush. one of the best vocals too.

IT'S OKAY!
LIVE YOUR TRUTH!

I'm almost 100% sure this lyric pertains to my dogged adoration for Ireland by Tori Amos.

 

[Iguana]

watching these asap! (not Orange Knickers - even the screengrab is telling me don't)

It's a gorgeous perf thought I fink!

 

[VoR]

Doing some browsing in Vienna’s finest/darkest/only record shop. I have a sneaking suspicion that this might not be an official release…

 

[Jark]

I had a few viennese record shops saved from my time there! Seven Star Records and DAS MARKET were good ones

 

[FannyFaudrey]

From today’s Sunday Times style supplement.

 

[straightorbroken]

Not me thinking that bomber jacket was a Sega Saturn controller and getting very piqued.

 

[Tisch]

Tori Amos attacked by moose (not a moopy tag)

 

[Jark]

hugs t

 

[Jark]

how does she know the weight of the moose? seems suss

 

[Iguana]

A girl KNOWS

 

[jivafox]

Sure. A moose.