dmlaw
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I bet this lunatic would enthusiastically deny the existence of anti-semitism in the Labour Party after bringing up Zionism out of fucking nowhere.
I bet this lunatic would enthusiastically deny the existence of anti-semitism in the Labour Party after bringing up Zionism out of fucking nowhere.
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ButterTart
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Oh I've been called a Zionist a few times just for pointing out Corbyn wasn't really that great. Also I've been referred to as a 'J*w' (their asterisk) which obviously got reported.
AlgoAlex
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Imagine Richard Burgon
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... Nope
dmlaw
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Did you ever work out what exactly was the scam which they were referring to in their idiotic hashtag?
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I’ve long since known that not all Corbyn supporters are the same. I have relatives who idolised him. But they’ve moved on for the greater good.
ButterTart
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Apparently Keef is a serial liar and anti-semite who ousted Corbyn. How any of this proves Corbyn was electable and Starmer lost North Shropshire is beyond me; if I didn't know better I'd say it almost feels like demented rambling.
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Anyone whose username is the hashtag WestMonsterMustFail is just setting themselves up for a lifetime of disappointment
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And in this year’s version of TORY HOKEY COKEY… He’s OUT again
Why on earth did he accept it in the first place?
www.bbc.co.uk
Why on earth did he accept it in the first place?
Top civil servant Simon Case quits No 10 party probe amid rule breach claims
Simon Case, who was leading the inquiry, stands aside after it emerged an event was held in his office.
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But he's in the middle of a VERY IMPORTANT INVESTIGATION. Oh well, guess it needs to stop?And in this year’s version of TORY HOKEY COKEY… He’s OUT again
Why on earth did he accept it in the first place?
Top civil servant Simon Case quits No 10 party probe amid rule breach claims
Simon Case, who was leading the inquiry, stands aside after it emerged an event was held in his office.
funky
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I’ve only just seen this and I honesty have to say that this is the first time I’ve seen him look genuinely vulnerable. Not in terms of performance because that’s been shocking for a long time… but actually exposed as a fraud. Sky are absolutely hammering here and he absolutely nothing to fucking say except of his suggestion that the media and public are focusing on the wrong things (lies/sleaze/hypocrosy) rather than getting the booster
Even stupid people would find this shocking
Feeling like he might actually be in trouble for the first time.
AlgoAlex
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Good on the interviewer making it crystal clear what Johnson is implying. I'm hoping this cuts through to small c conservatives. Can't wait to hear what my Dad thinks of this
It’s a good question @AleXmas - if North Shropshire is anything to by (and I appreciate there were unique circumstances there) then it is cutting through to the small c / routine Tory voter. Those are people like my parents - not ideological but always generally voted Conservative and in a rural seat very similar to NS. I doubt that they will ever vote Conservative again.
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A lunatic he may be but it's not out of nowhere though. Starmer is deep in the BOD's pockets and is a Zionist. He gave a speech to Labour Friends of Israel last month on this precise matter.
ButterTart
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And every single point he makes is absolute bollocks. Fastest growing economy? We're growing to a point lower than we were before Covid. Every other country has already reached this point because they haven't also been butchered by Brexit.
The booster rollout is also lower than in a lot of other countries (Germany hit a record for boosters this week) and, lest we forget, has ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL to do with him. It's organised and administered by the NHS, he's just the dickhead who put them under unnecessary strain at the weekend with a bullshit press conference in a vain effort to change headlines.
He does look weak and vulnerable now. Before, he could hide behind Brexit but that bubble has truly burst. He's exposed, at his lowest ebb and has literally NOTHING left in reserve to get people back onside.
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ButterTart
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Lol Starmer out
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I'm thinking the same, sadly. Also not to be a 'Starmer out' person as I think he's handled things pretty well recently, but isn't any Labour increase in these polls just down to Tory support eroding so could easily disappear once Boris is gone/the parties are no longer a news story? I'm not saying it isn't welcome, I'm just not convinced it means very much
dmlaw
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It probably depends which Tory supporters are going. If it’s the ones who just voted for Johnson because he’s a legend, they probably won’t come back for Truss or Sunak.I'm thinking the same, sadly. Also not to be a 'Starmer out' person as I think he's handled things pretty well recently, but isn't any Labour increase in these polls just down to Tory support eroding so could easily disappear once Boris is gone/the parties are no longer a news story? I'm not saying it isn't welcome, I'm just not convinced it means very much
VoR
Take it or leave it
Who from the Tories are you expecting to suddenly shoot up in popularity? Boris is their (less extreme) Trump figure. Without him they're just a bunch of abject weirdos.
I guess Rishi maybe, but I can't see it being a significant long-term boost. He's the epitome of the out of touch elite without much indication of having Boris' media friendly sense of humour. Literally all he has in his favour is that he doesn't look actively in-bred.
Liz Truss would be an iconic disaster.
I guess Rishi maybe, but I can't see it being a significant long-term boost. He's the epitome of the out of touch elite without much indication of having Boris' media friendly sense of humour. Literally all he has in his favour is that he doesn't look actively in-bred.
Liz Truss would be an iconic disaster.
We can all be thankful that team Starmer have learned the correct response to the Tories imploding is to just sit there and let it happen, and NOT to inexplicably brief the press that Angela Rayner was throwing secret raves in her local old folks' home throughout the pandemic.
PROGRESS.
PROGRESS.
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Probably temporarily because there's always a new leader boost, but crucially the feedback from North Shropshire is that all of this stuff around sleaze, Paterson and the like is starting to bleed into the Tory brand, rather than being contained to just Boris himself.
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Also the other part of it is that basically every viable replacement for Boris is absolutely dead-set on taking the Tories back to Thatcherism, reducing spending and spending cuts without Boris pushing for higher spending. There's ultimately a reason Boris pushed for that higher spending in the first place and it's that that pitch doesn't really work anymore post-Brexit...
ButterTart
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But who will this be? Truss and Raab are national laughing stocks and Sunak isn't exactly popular in any sector which has been affected by lockdown. No other Tory has the cult of personality surrounding them that Johnson did, so I can't see there being any marked surge for whoever becomes the new twat in chief.
ButterTart
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Labour have the easiest possible manifesto for the next election, just reverse every bit of legislation enacted by the Tories and promise to not flog the NHS.
VoR
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I read something about Jeremy Hunt plotting a comeback recently
But he feels like such a has-been.
But he feels like such a has-been.
Bypass
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I really don´t think it will be Truss, she´s way too to prone to fuck ups and surely even the Tories realize that Patel is insane. Wasn´t she(along with Rees Mogg) told during the last campaign to keep her mouth shut? There´s a big risk of her being electorally toxic.
I lean towards Sunak. The Tories are going to want someone who at least appears to be competent. I go back on forth on how successful he would be. I think he´d go down very well with a lot of traditional Tory voters that have been turned off by Johnson, but I could also see him struggling massively with the newly acquired northern seats. I´m also pretty surely all of those business owners being screwed over by him not loosening the purse strings during this bout of covid aren´t going to forget.
I lean towards Sunak. The Tories are going to want someone who at least appears to be competent. I go back on forth on how successful he would be. I think he´d go down very well with a lot of traditional Tory voters that have been turned off by Johnson, but I could also see him struggling massively with the newly acquired northern seats. I´m also pretty surely all of those business owners being screwed over by him not loosening the purse strings during this bout of covid aren´t going to forget.
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Exactly. Run on "whatever they tell you, they're lying. THEY WILL SELL THE NHS".