AS5 E02: I’m in Love!

[Phoenix]

Shae was everything this episode, that runway was to die for and she destroyed Alyssa in that lipsync.

Shame that Ongina ended up being a wet noodle after all the anticipation.

I like that these queens don’t shy away from drama, especially that Cracker can’t grasp how she’s antagonizing everyone.

I thought Alexis should have been in the top and I loved India’s runway.

 

[RS]

Watching now... Cracker in her pink furry coat is so fuckable. But what was the point of calling out Ongina?

 

[Dark Carnival]

And we thought Cracker couldn’t get more unlikable!

 

[straightorbroken]

Next week looks even worse

 

[Dark Carnival]

Seriously, she could have come for ANYONE for her 15 seconds of screen time and she chose... ONGINA?!

 

[Generic Account]

As excited as I am for Shea vs Jujubee in the finale, I want this season to go on forever.

Cracker (not so) slowly transforming into a complete monster is EVERYTHING. Where was this in Season 10???

 

[RS]

I mean, who knew of all people that Cracker would get the villain edit

I have to say I really felt sorry about her, and the fact that she is looking so hot, and also because somehow she reminds me of @Diddy out of drag, is making me loving her so much. She looked great as a dark haired Jewess. Much better than in blond hair which always makes her look like Bette Midler.

 

[RS]

Oh and ”I wish it was you!” was my favourite line from this (Untucked) episode.


Alexis is also someone I used to hate but is making me change my mind now.

Almost all girls looked stunning; Mayhem is only one I thought looked meh. Even that pig India looked stunning.

Ongina should’ve never signed up for All Stars. She did herself a disservice (is that a word?). But I did feel sorry for her too. It was sweet of her to admit she should leave.

And that talk with Alyssa was also nice.
Did Evie get to talk to Derreck? Maybe I missed it?

Alyssa is of course everything. It felt strange not wanting her to win the lip sync, but it was obvious that Shea was winning. Alyssa shouldve done last week, Livin la Vida Loca would have suited her better.

 

[VoR]

I knew it wouldn't take long for Mizz Cracker's deep unlikability to rear its head. She's just awful (but watchably so, and JUST the antagonist we need now Derrick's gone).

Shea's outfit was utterly iconic but I thought her verse was a bit unimaginative compared to what Blair and JuJubee did. She did slay the lip sync though - Alyssa felt strangely low energy.

Mariah should have been safe too, I don't like when they randomly alternate between a bottom 2 or a bottom 3. India and Ongina were the clear weak links.

 

[RS]

I thought the whole performance was rather boring and not at all on same level as the group singing challenges that we’ve come to expect after the last couple of seasons.

Shea’s outfit was breathtaking but I wish her hair was bigger. Her neck looked bigger than her hair.

 

[Dark Carnival]

Miss Alyssa clearly just showed up for the cheque!

 

[Music]

I thought the whole performance was rather boring and not at all on same level as the group singing challenges that we’ve come to expect after the last couple of seasons.

I'm That Bitch from Season 12 was so much better than this. It wasn't terrible, just dull and unmemorable. The runway made up for it though as everyone looked stunning.

 

[VoR]

Just watched Untucked. Cracker's whole problem is that she's utterly self-absorbed and has no doubt in her mind that she's the smartest person in the room at all times. It's what used to wind me up about her in her season. All her self pity came from this 'It's so HARD because I'm so much smarter and deeper than the rest of these girls ' perspective. Fuck off!

The unanimous vote for Ongina (including Ongina herself!) was a bit sad but predictable. I did laugh at how emotional they all got about it these week, compared to last week when 90% of them voted out Derrick without a moment's hesitation.

 

[lolly]

I find Cracker disgusting on pretty much every level. Totally love/hate that she's here.

 

[Generic Account]

I think she'd be very annoying in real life but I don't think she's unlikeable. She's hitting this weird middle ground between totally deluded and charming. Compared to say, someone like Milk in the past who was just unlikeably obnoxious on her season.

Blair came off better this week but she didn't lip sync half the lyrics so I don't understand why she was top. And you can tell Mayhem really wants to prove that she's a personality queen after seeming so quiet on her season, but it is coming off as a bit forced.

Here for a Shea-Juju-Alexis-Cracker top four, but if Mariah stomps her way in I will not be unhappy at ALL.

Sad for Ongina but her exit was heartwarming.

 

[Sheena]

Fuck off should ANY lip sync to Neutron Dance be as underwhelming as it was.

 

[Phoenix]

I was surprised no one mentioned how ill fitting the harness that Blair was wearing during the performance. It was 3 sizes too big or it needed boobs, it looked stupid.

 

[AGinAg (37)]

Alyssa Edwards so threw that lip sync.

I'm a fan of Miz. I kinda get her.

 

[dUb]

Ongina letting Cracker have it

Spoiler

 

[lolly]

Ongina letting Cracker have it

Spoiler

And presumably she's been sitting on that for a year

 

[K.C.]

Jujubee is FIRE. Hilarious front to back

 

[dUb]

This seems in line with what I've seen

Spoiler

 

[Generic Account]

it's very true.

I could also do without the commenters who have popped up all over YouTube in the last week gushing about The Vixen's arguments in Season 10 and saying that they've now decided that she was an important piece of television history as if she needs their approval and pretending that they didn't spend a year sending her death threats on Instagram.

 

[RS]

What is this about? The Vixen had a horrible attitude that had nothing to do with her race.

 

[K.C.]

I refuse to accept any other scenario than Alyssa being INSTRUCTED to lose that lip-synch on purpose. Because Queen Edwards would NEVER tolerate a performance that disappointing.

 

[Generic Account]

What is this about? The Vixen had a horrible attitude that had nothing to do with her race.

Her arch on the show was centered around her race and there was a stark contrast in the way she was presented in contrasted to, say, Eureka, who the bulk of the cast say ignited the arguments and sought to antagonize Vixen. Eureka got a winning edit whereas The Vixen was picked apart by RuPaul in the reunion.

And she raised a lot of legitimate questions related to race on television and on Drag Race in terms of production and fandom that hadn't been touched on before.

 

[COB]

The show's treatment of The Vixen (particularly in the reunion from Ru himself) was fucking appalling.

 

[Generic Account]

Yup. Asia really came through there.

And sort of but not really unrelated: The Vixen was GREAT on the show and never got the credit she deserved as a performer.

 

[RS]

Raising the subject doesn’t justify her behaviour and what she brought on herself by herself.

 

[COB]

I agree, she WAS too uppity

 

[K.C.]

In order to "edit" someone poorly on a TV show, there has to be SOMETHING TO EDIT in the first place. Editing isn't a magic wand where you just CREATE a contestant. It may have made The Vixen look like a "villain" but her immature and hostile attitude allowed for that to happen to her in the first place.

I loved her as a contestant and she's got great stage presence, but I don't feel any sympathy towards her "editing". I also don't buy the "cry for help" garbage Asia tried to sell on their season. Mature stable adults don't 'cry for help', they tackle their problems directly. And while Vixen DID attempt to do that, she did it in a very aggressive and hostile manner. Meanwhile, Eureka, who's truly vile and way less talented, handled it much better and came off looking like the 'bigger person'.

It sucks, but it's the age old issue of think before you act. And I think in the end, Vixen bit off more than she could chew.

 

[K.C.]

Off Topic: I've chatted with Vixen a lot on Grindr and he's just a nice regular person. Maybe it was the cameras etc. I dunno

 

[Generic Account]

Well no, because if you're actively downplaying the actions of the contestant who was the incentive for that behaviour then yes, you are editing someone poorly. Likewise if you're actively placing them in situations that you know will cause them to arise. Or if you're playing villainous music in the background when other contestants are getting lighthearted music and doing similar things.

They have a choice of what they want to show and they have a narrative that they want to depict and it's the case in every reality television show.

 

[Generic Account]

And there is quite clearly a racial element in terms of who is presented as a villain, and even more so in terms of audience perception and REception. Raven in Season 2 is the most obvious example, because yes, she comes across well now, but from what she saw she bullied anyone she saw as weaker in Season 2 yet Tyra (who, yes, also handled herself badly) has always been presented as evil.

 

[K.C.]

It's Reality TV hun. Nobody is new to it. Everyone knows how producers manipulate every part of the show. The best a contestant can do is anticipate and prepare.
I struggle to accept that a willing contestant is a victim of "editing"

 

[Tetris-Rock]

APOLS to go back to the episode (LOL) but I also thought that Alyssa didn't really give it her all in that lipsync. Although Shea was BRILL and fully deserved the win. Loved her in the challenge too. She is the one to beat for me, although i'm also really enjoying Alexis and Jujubee.

 

[Generic Account]

It's Reality TV hun. Nobody is new to it. Everyone knows how producers manipulate every part of the show. The best a contestant can do is anticipate and prepare.
I struggle to accept that a willing contestant is a victim of "editing"

I think it's a bit much to assume that everyone is as hyper aware about reality TV as those debating it on TV. And I would hazard a guess that most people on here would be in a similar position if they suddenly found themselves behind camera.

 

[Generic Account]

APOLS to go back to the episode (LOL) but I also thought that Alyssa didn't really give it her all in that lipsync. Although Shea was BRILL and fully deserved the win. Loved her in the challenge too. She is the one to beat for me, although i'm also really enjoying Alexis and Jujubee.

YES, they are so clearly the top three at the minute and I'm so happy that Juju and Alexis are doing so well considering they're representing the earlier seasons.

 

[RS]

I don’t know if we’ve been watching the same show, but how did Eureka get a positive edit? She’s insufferable and nobody likes her.

Didn’t The Vixen start attacking Aquaria and when the latter cried, The Vixen raised the race issue?

Raven, Morgan, Sonique.... Alexis Michelle from a more recent season none of them were portrayed in a particularily nice way. Courtney too. They were all white.

 

[Generic Account]

I don’t know if we’ve been watching the same show, but how did Eureka get a positive edit? She’s insufferable and nobody likes her.

Didn’t The Vixen start attacking Aquaria and when the latter cried, The Vixen raised the race issue?

Raven, Morgan, Sonique.... Alexis Michelle from a more recent season none of them were portrayed in a particularily nice way. Courtney too. They were all white.

So many of the contestants after the show have said that Eureka prodded and prodded The Vixen, and led her into situations where she knew she would get a reaction for the sake of television. But that wasn't presented on the show or on untucked. And a lot of fans have turned on her, mostly after the season itself, but Eureka's brashness and loudness was produced MUCH differently in S10 than The Vixen's was.