The UK Green Parties

VoR said:
I think he'd be better served waiting for a London seat.
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won't the Greens have a better chance in the London seats anyway? a Manchester seat might be better placed for the Greens to be seen as a party not just for liberals in the south of the country
 
There are winnable seats for them in Manchester, but I don’t think parachuting him into one of them would be a terribly good look. It’s a bit of a George Galloway move.
 
It wouldn’t be a total parachuting: he was born and raised in Salford.
 
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So all this fuss and it actually worked? :D
 
she doesn't specify what the desired effect was though. perhaps the desired effect was that her boobs would be full with ammunition to be stored and deployed against Zack Polanski 12 years in the future.
 
VoR said:


Greens now picking up seats from Reform in Kent, arguably the most wicked of all the ceremonial counties.
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First of all, as a Kentish man, how dare you?

Second of all, Margate is full of crackheads artsy ex-London types so I wouldn't imagine this result is indicative of DEEPEST, DARKEST KENT sadly.
 
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They might want to start vetting their candidates a tiny bit. Maybe glancing over their public Instagram pages at least.

spectator.com

The hateful posts of yet another Green party candidate

The extremism of some in the Green party is increasingly being compared to Labour in Jeremy Corbyn’s time. But there is a critical difference. Most of the haters in Corbyn Labour were ordinary activists. In the Greens, they are likely to become holders of public office with real power. Earlier...
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So "hateful posts" and "extremism" is showing support for people who are fighting against apartheid for the past 75 years and a genocide for almost 3 years? Under international law, the Palestinian people are recognised as having the right to resist foreign occupation, including through armed struggle, to achieve self-determination. This is based on principles established in UN General Assembly resolutions, such as Resolution 3707 (1973), which affirm the legitimacy of liberation struggles against colonial/foreign domination.

But I bet The Spectator has no problem whatsoever with the Labour Party being complicit in and assisting that genocide.

Are people really going to fall for this anti-Green Party drivel from a pro-Zionist outlet like The Spectator? Have we learned nothing since the "Jeremy Corbyn is an antisemite" days? Surely people aren't that thick?
 
Agneeta said:
Oh not The Spectator.
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It's an AWFUL RAG and the journalist is a DEMON but the Greens shouldn't be running candidates who are claiming Trump is "owned by Jews" and that Israel did 9/11.

The article has been shared by quite a lot of Labour accounts, so it's clearly a gift to those against the Greens for them to be running candidates who extol antisemitic (not simply anti-zionist) conspiracy theories.
 
I'm not pro-antisemitism in any form, but it's a cold day in hell when I take my news from The Spectator.
 
To be fair, The Greens are experiencing a similar bit of growing pain to Reform, in that they're standing a lot more candidates than they ever have before, many of them new and untested. There'll be those who have been preparing for Council for a while, and there'll be paper candidates who are much less vetted, but will still be subject to way more scrutiny than would usually be expected.

Like Reform, they'll probably end up with a few of the latter kind getting elected by accident as well due to the prevailing national mood, which can be a recipe for trouble...
 
girl half the time AI can't tell you many Ss are in the word successes, how's it gonna vet a candidate.
 
I asked it to find my most problematic post, I’m sure I have much worse buried in the archives!

In a thread about “United Kingdom 2023: Mae Muller - I Wrote a Song”, Lucille posted:

“I mean I don’t love it, but I feel we’d be a lot more forgiving of this song if it was some slag from the Balkans singing it.”
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Why this is problematic​

  • Uses the term “slag”, which is a derogatory insult.
  • Combines that with a regional/ethnic reference (“from the Balkans”), making it potentially xenophobic or stereotyping.
  • Implies bias in how people judge artists based on origin, framed in a dismissive way.
 
Lucille said:
I asked it to find my most problematic post, I’m sure I have much worse buried in the archives!

In a thread about “United Kingdom 2023: Mae Muller - I Wrote a Song”, Lucille posted:


Why this is problematic​

  • Uses the term “slag”, which is a derogatory insult.
  • Combines that with a regional/ethnic reference (“from the Balkans”), making it potentially xenophobic or stereotyping.
  • Implies bias in how people judge artists based on origin, framed in a dismissive way.
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AI is meant to be blocked from looking at Moopy completely!

BOB AND CLAIRE ARE BREAKING THE RULES
 
Wow, AI does not get nuance at all. That post was actually pro-slag from the Balkans!
 
Okay, NOT the Spectator this time. Two Green candidates have been arrested.

www.theguardian.com

Polanski criticised for reposting comment suggesting police arresting Golders Greens suspect used excessive force – as it happened

Home Office minister says ‘the Green Party has hit a new low’ after party leader’s repost on X
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The Met said in a statement: “Police have arrested two women, aged 57 and 54, on suspicion of stirring up racial hatred online, an offence under section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986. They remain in police custody.

“The arrests follow an investigation launched after concerns were reported to police on Tuesday 21 April about antisemitic material that had been posted online.”

The newspaper reported it was understood Ali, whose Instagram account is set to private, posted an image of an armed man wearing a headband of the proscribed Islamist militant group Hamas alongside the slogan “resistance is freedom”.

Mairey shared the text “ramming a synagogue isn’t antisemitism, it’s revenge” on the platform, The Telegraph said.
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I’m sure the right wing will be right along to defend them against the travesty of being arrested for posting “hurty words”.

Right?
 
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