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[Zu]

MY MUM HAS ASKED ME TO HAVE A TEST BEFORE I VISIT FOR CHRISTMAS AND NOW I’M TERRIFIED I’M GOING TO TEST POSITIVE AND THAT THIS WILL BE THE THIRD CHRISTMAS IN A ROW I SPEND HOME ALONE WITH A FROZEN PIZZA (THE LAST TWO BECAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH / ADDICTION ISSUES)

Oh love

PANEER is my recommendation in these circumstances

 

[Nancy]

Oh love

PANEER is my recommendation in these circumstances

THANKS, BUT I’M VEGAN. UNLESS THERE IS A VEGAN PANEER AVAILABLE

 

[Zu]

THANKS, BUT I’M VEGAN. UNLESS THERE IS A VEGAN PANEER AVAILABLE

Or Bombay Aloo. Very easy and satisfying

 

[GNL]

I WASN’T ADDICTED TO FROZEN PIZZA, BY THE WAY

Sorry, but the GHOST OF CHRISTMAS PAST just showed me a vision of you holding a spoon over a lighter, waiting for a piece of pepperoni to cook

 

[GNL]

VEGAN PEPPERONI

 

[Nancy]

BY THE WAY, I’VE ONLY BECOME VEGAN SINCE I BROKE FREE OF MY ADDICTION.

I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A VEGAN ADDICT?

 

[Zu]

BY THE WAY, I’VE ONLY BECOME VEGAN SINCE I BROKE FREE OF MY ADDICTION.

I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A VEGAN ADDICT?

ACTUALLY I HAVE

 

[Ellie]

I’m doing a bit of roasted veg tonight with sausages. I think I’ve overdone it on the garlic. You could do that with a sausage substitute.

 

[Nancy]

ACTUALLY I HAVE

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL

 

[lolly]

ACTUALLY I HAVE

Me too. Quite a few of them.

 

[Zu]

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL

A vegan who chooses to remain in her abusive relationship but thinks that veganism provides her with moral superiority in that context, to be precise

 

[Nancy]

TO BE FAIR, FEELING AND ACTING MORALLY SUPERIOR IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I’M VEGAN

 

[Soldi]

Oh I hate it when vegans act like they’re better than you

 

[GNL]

Acting superior is just a DEFENSE MECHANISM developed after the twentieth person starts rambling on about BACON.

 

[lolly]

Oh I hate it when vegans act like they’re better than you

Well that's most of them, in my experience. Not that I blame them. Nancy is just more open about it.

 

[Zu]

TO BE FAIR, FEELING AND ACTING MORALLY SUPERIOR IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I’M VEGAN

I‘m not convinced that actually FLIES

Surely it should be about the animals?

 

[RJN]

Being a vegetarian is a lose/lose: I make my life more difficult and I can't even feel morally superior

 

[Nancy]

I‘m not convinced that actually FLIES

Surely it should be about the animals?

IT IS ACTUALLY. CONQUERING MY ADDICTIONS RESULTED IN ME FEELING MORE CONNECTED TO THE WORLD AND A FAR MORE EMPATHIC PERSON.

WHO WOULDA THOUGHT?

 

[Soldi]

GREAT if you don’t want to eat animals or use animal products but I really couldn’t give a TOSS. Obviously I’m not getting at our @Nancy here, but it’s mainly when you go out for food with them and they try and make you feel bad.

 

[Zu]

One of my issues with veganism is that it’s so often about something else entirely

“I’m cruelty free” indeed

OH REALLY

 

[Soldi]

One of my issues with veganism is that it’s so often about something else entirely

“I’m cruelty free” indeed

OH REALLY

And it’s hard to LIVE these days being completely CRUELTY FREE.

 

[lolly]

GREAT if you don’t want to eat animals or use animal products but I really couldn’t give a TOSS. Obviously I’m not getting at our @Nancy here, but it’s mainly when you go out for food with them and they try and make you feel bad.

As much as what I said above, it's not really about them making you feel bad (unless your friends are real militant vegans, I guess) and more about your own cognitive dissonance, I suspect.

Well, THAT'S ME, at least.

 

[AGinAg (37)]

One of my issues with veganism is that it’s so often about something else entirely

“I’m cruelty free” indeed

OH REALLY

Not with the fucking upper case they're not.

 

[Nancy]

And it’s hard to LIVE these days being completely CRUELTY FREE.

IT’S NOT ABOUT BEING COMPLETELY CRUELTY FREE. IT’S ABOUT DOING THE BEST YOU CAN.

 

[AGinAg (37)]

IT’S NOT ABOUT BEING COMPLETELY CRUELTY FREE. IT’S ABOUT DOING THE BEST YOU CAN.

And yet here you are torturing us all with upper case.

 

[Zu]

IT’S NOT ABOUT BEING COMPLETELY CRUELTY FREE. IT’S ABOUT DOING THE BEST YOU CAN.

But the whole CRUELTY FREE schtick is a whitewashing of one’s own capacity for emotional cruelty and projection onto meat eaters of supposed “cruelty”

I DON’T BUY IT

 

[Soldi]

And something I also don’t quite get with non-meat eaters is eating SUBSTITUTES. I know it’s just crushed up mushrooms or whatever but what’s the point of eating a non-meat based diet if you’re just going to eat meat substitutes? What’s the point?

 

[lolly]

And something I also don’t quite get with non-meat eaters is eating SUBSTITUTES. I know it’s just crushed up mushrooms or whatever but what’s the point of eating a non-meat based diet if you’re just going to eat meat substitutes? What’s the point?

I'd have thought the point was entirely obvious.

 

[Nancy]

And something I also don’t quite get with non-meat eaters is eating SUBSTITUTES. I know it’s just crushed up mushrooms or whatever but what’s the point of eating a non-meat based diet if you’re just going to eat meat substitutes? What’s the point?

ERM, BECAUSE IT DOESN’T RESULT IN THE MALTREATMENT OF LIVING CREATURES AND ULTIMATELY THEIR DEATH

 

[Soldi]

OK LOVE GOT IT

 

[Zu]

And something I also don’t quite get with non-meat eaters is eating SUBSTITUTES. I know it’s just crushed up mushrooms or whatever but what’s the point of eating a non-meat based diet if you’re just going to eat meat substitutes? What’s the point?

Also most of them are VILE. Just eat veg. I’m no vegan but I know a thousand ways with VEG

 

[AGinAg (37)]

Fuck me, this is some low level basic shit.

 

[RJN]

Also most of them are VILE. Just eat veg. I’m no vegan but I know a thousand ways with VEG

Some of the substitutes these days are great!

 

[AGinAg (37)]

I’m no vegan but I know a thousand ways with VEG

 

[RJN]

They taste especially good when its been long enough you forgot what meat actually tastes like

 

[lolly]

A lot of the meat substitute meals are a kind of gateway into veganism, aren't they? It makes it a lot easier to face the transition if you think you can just swap things, rather than completely reinvent your diet. Particularly when the British diet is (or at least certainly was) so based on meat and two veg.

 

[Soldi]

Also most of them are VILE. Just eat veg. I’m no vegan but I know a thousand ways with VEG

I mean YES, I understand it prevents maltreatment of those poor chickens etc etc, but why move to a vegan/vegetarian diet and just eat a load of fake processed meat, rather than EXPLORING different REAL foods instead?

 

[Zu]

Some of the substitutes these days are great!

I don’t really get the need for substitutes. Chick pea curry for example. Easy as fuck, accidentally vegan and I make it frequently

 

[Nancy]

I don’t really get the need for substitutes. Chick pea curry for example. Easy as fuck, accidentally vegan and I make it frequently

CHICKPEA AND TOMATO CURRY IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE GO TO DISHES

 

[RJN]

I don’t really get the need for substitutes. Chick pea curry for example. Easy as fuck, accidentally vegan and I make it frequently

I think that I am just used to certain foods and substitutes made it an easier transition (though I'm not a vegan). And sometimes I just want a certain food. I eat a lot of veggie sausages especially.

I only eat substitutes once a week or so though. They aren't the majority of my diet, and they probably shouldn't be anyone's, since they are so processed. But even if they are, it's still better for animals.

Chickpea curry is delicious