The UK: The Keir Starmer years - RESIGNED

I can't believe I am the one that will be doing the TO BE FAIR today...but..TO BE FAIR

It looks like a reaction to some better than expected figures, so they need to raise less money than they anticipated.



Now, I still think they SHOULD raise some taxes to give them more money to actually fix problems that have built up over the past 15 years, but the uturn makes more sense now at least, and isn't JUST a reaction to the politics of it all
 
ZenGiraffe said:
I can't believe I am the one that will be doing the TO BE FAIR today...but..TO BE FAIR

It looks like a reaction to some better than expected figures, so they need to raise less money than they anticipated.



Now, I still think they SHOULD raise some taxes to give them more money to actually fix problems that have built up over the past 15 years, but the uturn makes more sense now at least, and isn't JUST a reaction to the politics of it all
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So they are reducing higher rate income tax threshold, so they dont have to increase basic rate income tax... which basically is an increase to basic rate income tax! 🤦🏼‍♂️ make that make sense!
 
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Labour looked like such a confident win in their GE I don’t know why not raising taxes of “working” people was ever in their manifesto.

(Being in Scotland I was quite into that NI reduction :basil: )
 


Sick of BOAT PEOPLE comin' 'ere with their bags full of gold rings and Audis.
 
Honestly, this latest round of fash-sopping is just repulsive. They could at last have got someone other that LORD FARQUAD to deliver it. In blue as well! She wore blue!
 
Would I rather Labour did it than Farage? Yes. Is it an itch that needs to be scratched? Yes.

Do I like it? No of course I fucking don't like this cruel shit. It's insane that we're in a place where this has to happen. Wait and see what happens when refugees start building up in Germany and France for international security.
 
Insane that someone sat down in a meeting and said "How do we out right Reform? Let's channel the ACTUAL NAZIS" and people nodded and said yes.

I can't read anything about it because I'm so fucking angry.
 
ZenGiraffe said:
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In no way does it need to be scratched at all. Labour are just too cowardly to actually try and change public opinion, rather than blindly follow it
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The messaging on it is too far ingrained in the public consciousness after years of plugging by the right, for it to not be. It's not my itch, but something like almost 60% of people now consider immigration the key issue, over the economy, which is fucking mental.

But yes they could try, but humane positions rarely cut through the noise of the hateful right. Not my take, just what I see.
 
You will never satisfy a racist so you shouldn't try. The right wing press (ie almost all of it) have sought to make this the big issue of the day so that we don;t notice the collapse of basic public services because of the greed of the few. Labour are essentially trying to stay on the right side of people who will always hate them, never endorse them and never vote for them. Why? You're in government until 2029 with a whopping majority, stop trying to appease the most amplified voices.
 
nobody at the top of Labour seems able to comprehend this and it will be the undoing of them sooner or later, probably sooner.

it's really so simple. shout louder about some of the good stuff you've done (there is good stuff). announce sensible economic policies (tax the rich). change the narrative. present a positive vision for the country! and stop playing in reform's playground.

five years is a huge amount of time to do all of the above and get the public on side but they're squandering it blindly. bending over backwards to appease the right will damage the party beyond this government, which is already fucked.
 
Doing everything they can to appeal to the Refom vote and this is where it gets them.



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He was responding to an attempted gotcha question in an interview so it’s very unlikely to happen. Hard to see the self-styled Mr Manchester decamping to Norwich, and it’s the kind of stunt that could backfire horribly in such an anti-Labour environment.
 
I also think any leadership bid facilitated by Clive Lewis would be SUICIDE for Burnham seeing as it'd instantly set all the anti-left MPs against him.
 
STOP DRAGGING MY BEAUTIFUL (SOMETIMES GRUBBY) CITY MAYOR INTO THIS
 
The city, that is, not the mayor. Although I bet Andy is a bit grubby, deep down. He's deffos chipped in for another bag at the afters, once upon a time.
 
How good of Sir Keir to subsidise an industry that will likely drive unemployment significantly in the next decade.
 
www.thenational.scot

'Talk to me with respect, I'm the Chancellor,' Reeves tells Scots businessperson

RACHEL Reeves reportedly told a Scottish business to “talk to me with respect, I’m the Chancellor”.
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Afterwards, the Chancellor was challenged “robustly” by “local business leaders” over tea and sandwiches.

She is said to have glared at one of the businesspeople gathered, telling them: “Talk to me with respect. I’m the Chancellor of the Exchequer.”
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Camp.
 
Talk to me with respect, I'm the Chancellor
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whoever softened her image and styling post-election did a fantastic job. lest we forget...

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“We live here too, so you have to listen to us.”

“But I’m the Chancellor though, I’m the Chancellor. And that’s what it keeps coming back to. I’d love to listen to you but I can’t!”
 
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