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Are you worried about contracting coronavirus?

  • Yes, I am absolutely terrified

    Votes: 12 15.6%

  • Yes, I am slightly concerned

    Votes: 35 45.5%

  • I am neither concerned or unconcerned

    Votes: 7 9.1%

  • No, I am slightly unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • No, I am totally unconcerned

    Votes: 6 7.8%

  • Bring back the old poll

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Charlotte Awbrey tits out doing the Macarena

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • I believe VoR is evil

    Votes: 11 14.3%
  • Total voters
    77
RJN said:
It might not be THAT bad. Even in the reddest state, most people 65+ are getting the vaccine. So even if there is community spread, the death rate should remain pretty low. It probably won't be like last winter.
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Worth comparing though - in England 85% of ALL adults have had one vaccine, and 63% both. Scotland broadly similar, Wales slightly better, Northern Ireland slightly poorer - but all at least 60% double vaccinated in all.

Considering the younger age groups have only been eligible very recently and the take up slower, I'd imagine the uptake for 65+ is likely to be up near 95% with at least one jab, and not much lower having had both.
 
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Long Covid is the undervalued element here and it's deliberate. The death toll is half the story and could well turn out to be the greater issue in the long term. All these people coming down with it and us getting told "it's OK because they're not dying" absolutely infuriates me.
 
lolly said:
Worth comparing though - in England 85% of ALL adults have had one vaccine, and 63% both. Scotland broadly similar, Wales slightly better, Northern Ireland slightly poorer - but all at least 60% double vaccinated in all.

Considering the younger age groups have only been eligible very recently and the take up slower, I'd imagine the uptake for 65+ is likely to be up near 95% with at least one jab, and not much lower having had both.
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Well yeah but 40% of Americans are completely divorced from reality. I’m not trying to say that what’s happening here is good, but it’s not as bad as it could be
 
It was so obvious that, as soon as older people were vaccinated, the papers would demand that we open up and that Johnson would cave. Hancock was likely set up because he was resisting that and had called for earlier lockdowns than Johnson was prepared to enact - he was therefore seen as 'weak' within the cabinet, a far more serious issue for the Tories than his outright incompetence.
 
Reddit's /r/coronavirusuk lot seem to be starting to see sense. Not so long ago, if you even mentioned Long Covid as a worry you'd just instantly get downvoted until your comment was hidden, as it was seen as a made up thing to push for longer lockdowns. Now they're wising up a bit.
 
The more it goes on the more infuriated I am about them just removing all masks. Supermarkets and trains are going to be a more stressful experience for me now - not because of the danger or anything but because it symbolically tells people that they do what they like now. People need guidance. Even when they don’t want it. Now it’ll be back to armpits in faces on the train, people coughing openly, people crowding round shelves in Tesco. Obviously a lot of people will understand and adapt. But it only takes a tiny minority to spoil it for everyone else.

We are yet to even understand the impact of not wearing masks in shops. We haven’t done it since the first lockdown. Why remove it completely at the same time as opening up clubs, bars, concerts etc. It’s too much at once.

I can’t actually believe he said “we have to expect more deaths”. Yeah like 2 deaths a day is the same as 200 deaths a day. When you know that the latter could be just as possible as the former.
 
I haven’t set foot in a supermarket since catching Covid in January - 99% sure it was from non mask wearers in Sainsbury’s. Have been doing online deliveries ever since.
 
For what it's worth I suspect various supermarkets will choose for themselves whether to do away with masks or not. But I could also foresee it being seen as a "middle class thing" so the masked ones would M&S and the like while the cheap "pile everyone in and shift them fast" ones will go maskless. So the poor will get the short end of the stick as always, as will anyone (like me) who's not poor but can't be spending M&S prices either...

Or, maybe, like "elderly hour" and "autism hour" etc some of them will have a "masks only hour". Depends on the level of demand from customers I suppose.

I'll probably feel alright with it not long after "freedom" day when my 2nd jab beds in but continue with the mask to keep others comfortable while the numbers are high. Maybe I will re-secure my phone and go back to removing the mask briefly for Face ID though. And I certainly won't be doing the "mask theatre" in the pub where you wear it for the 2 second walk between the door and the table. In this way it'll become more a "common sense" thing, it's just that it's unlikely to be common.

Meanwhile our line director said the other day "looking forward to seeing you in a shirt and tie one of these days" (he likes to drop hints and really that's his "level 1" type of instruction before he shifts gear towards the "level 2" of "that wasn't a suggestion by the way, it means do it"... but can get to fuck with level 1 as long as HR is saying "dress code is relaxed during the pandemic"). Here was me hoping the "new normal" would include a realisation that people do just as good or bad a job regardless of whether they're wearing a silly dangly thing around their necks.
 
I think I might get some of those N95 ones for public transport, since that’s where the scabbiest people are especially in London. But yeah like you say prob won’t bother in the pub.
 
Cloud said:
For what it's worth I suspect various supermarkets will choose for themselves whether to do away with masks or not. But I could also foresee it being seen as a "middle class thing" so the masked ones would M&S and the like while the cheap "pile everyone in and shift them fast" ones will go maskless. So the poor will get the short end of the stick as always, as will anyone (like me) who's not poor but can't be spending M&S prices either...

Or, maybe, like "elderly hour" and "autism hour" etc some of them will have a "masks only hour". Depends on the level of demand from customers I suppose.

I'll probably feel alright with it not long after "freedom" day when my 2nd jab beds in but continue with the mask to keep others comfortable while the numbers are high. Maybe I will re-secure my phone and go back to removing the mask briefly for Face ID though. And I certainly won't be doing the "mask theatre" in the pub where you wear it for the 2 second walk between the door and the table. In this way it'll become more a "common sense" thing, it's just that it's unlikely to be common.

Meanwhile our line director said the other day "looking forward to seeing you in a shirt and tie one of these days" (he likes to drop hints and really that's his "level 1" type of instruction before he shifts gear towards the "level 2" of "that wasn't a suggestion by the way, it means do it"... but can get to fuck with level 1 as long as HR is saying "dress code is relaxed during the pandemic"). Here was me hoping the "new normal" would include a realisation that people do just as good or bad a job regardless of whether they're wearing a silly dangly thing around their necks.
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I disagree. I think supermarkets, who are pretty much geared to getting as many people in through the door, will go for "personal choice" and not enforce anything. Even if they do a "mask hour", which feels unlikely, it won't be managed by them in any way.
 
Indie said:
I disagree. I think supermarkets, who are pretty much geared to getting as many people in through the door, will go for "personal choice" and not enforce anything. Even if they do a "mask hour", which feels unlikely, it won't be managed by them in any way.
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I doubt we'll continue seeing hand sanitiser by the doors much longer, either.

Not that many shops have been bothered about actually refilling them occasionally, for a while anyway.
 
Indie said:
I disagree. I think supermarkets, who are pretty much geared to getting as many people in through the door, will go for "personal choice" and not enforce anything. Even if they do a "mask hour", which feels unlikely, it won't be managed by them in any way.
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Maybe. I think social media will play a part, and playing to various audiences. Maybe though masks will be personal choice and hand sanitisers properly replenished as a virtue signalling thing (I hate that phrase as it's usually (ab)used by right wing nutjobs but sometimes it has a place)
 
Hardly a lone voice here, I know, but I think the messaging from this government around 'Freedom Day' :rolleyes: has been (typically) horrendous tbh. Irrespective of whether the grand reopening should be happening or not, there's really no justification for ditching masks and other preventative measures (Jenrick even went on record as saying he'd stop wearing one, ffs). Half of the population are yet to be fully vaccinated - the notion that everything just returns to normal on July 19th and that "personal responsibility" alone should suffice from this point on is bizarre given case numbers. But I suppose we ought to know by now that they'll withdraw support and abrogate responsibility just as soon as they think they can get away with it. Fuckers.
 
Alex said:
Yes but the British people are sick of experts :manson:
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They'll be even sicker with Long Covid soon.

This is clearly the Tories crashing the NHS now, ready for the big sell-off. The toll that Long Covid will cause could easily be the gameplan now.
 
The rest of the world IS very much looking to us as an example, isn't it? I'm fairly sure I read that no other country is in quite the same position as us, in terms of both high vaccination rate and the delta variant being dominant earlier than most others.

I suppose we can still be an example (again) of what NOT to do.
 
lolly said:
The rest of the world IS very much looking to us as an example, isn't it? I'm fairly sure I read that no other country is in quite the same position as us, in terms of both high vaccination rate and the delta variant being dominant earlier than most others.

I suppose we can still be an example (again) of what NOT to do.
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It's fairly unlikely for anyone to be in an identical position, but Mongolia are fairly similar. >50% of the population vaccinated and new cases at an all time high.
 
I see that the UK can now travel to amber countries without quarantining when they come back? Surely it begs the question question of do they really want UK residents holidaying there when UK cases are big and are getting bigger when they have a lot less residents vaccinated than we do?
 
Scotland is likely to keep the need for face coverings in shops and public transport after most of the current restrictions are lifted on 9 August.

From the messaging coming out of Scottish Government, we’ll continue to take a more cautious approach.
 
Rita said:
I see that the UK can now travel to amber countries without quarantining when they come back? Surely it begs the question question of do they really want UK residents holidaying there when UK cases are big and are getting bigger when they have a lot less residents vaccinated than we do?
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It’s kind of pointless. Most countries are requiring UK nationals to self-isolate for 5-10 days when they arrive. Others have completely closed their borders to UK tourists.
 
win_the_game said:
It’s kind of pointless. Most countries are requiring UK nationals to self-isolate for 5-10 days when they arrive. Others have completely closed their borders to UK tourists.
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Yet the headlines are all saying SUMMER IS SAVED! :rolleyes:
 
win_the_game said:
It’s kind of pointless. Most countries are requiring UK nationals to self-isolate for 5-10 days when they arrive. Others have completely closed their borders to UK tourists.
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Not strictly true (yet). Most tourist destinations are allowing people to skip quarantine if they’re double vaccinated, including us.

It’s only really Italy enforcing a quarantine for Brits at the moment, and typically that’s where I’d been hoping to go next month.
 
As much as i am FUCKING DESPERATE for a foreign holiday, a) i'm not sure i could take the inevitable heartache when the country i'm going to changes rules or I get my first ever positive test and b) I DON'T WANT TO GO TO A "TYPICAL" TOURIST DESTINATION. When will SOUTH OSSETIA LET ME IN?
 
We are finally moving to step 3 next Friday. Indoor dining, gyms and movie theatres to open for the first time since October last year.
 
Good grief

Oh well, it seems to be levelling off. Question is what happens when the floodgates are opened, hopefully not a lot if it's offset by the schools breaking up, but young adults really need to get themselves jabbed before the September wave...
 
ZOE study been showing a consistent levelling off over the past week and today the daily new cases is down by 815

Question is, will it keep going down past the great reopening, or will the surge of clubbing cause it to go nuts again...
 
Cloud said:
ZOE study been showing a consistent levelling off over the past week and today the daily new cases is down by 815

Question is, will it keep going down past the great reopening, or will the surge of clubbing cause it to go nuts again...
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I thought you said previously that ZOE was now getting pretty unreliable?
 
Rita said:
I thought you said previously that ZOE was now getting pretty unreliable?
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The numbers are going down so now I trust it again :D

Seriously though not really, it's always remained a pretty close predictor of what the official figures will do about a week later. The leader Tim Spector can be a bit over-optimistic sometimes and had a bit of a "Michael Fish Moment" about a month ago when there was a slight slowing down and he said we'll be at peak in 10-14 days only for the numbers to go completely batshit, but I just take his predictions with a pinch of salt. The study itself seems to be staying pretty much on point. The data is a little noisy, but now we've had a week of levelling off it's much clearer.
 
I forgot the other reason I questioned ZOE which was that they were reporting hayfever symptoms as covid during peak hayfever season and my pet theory (partly through optimism / wishing for an end) was that it's just a load of asymptomatic cases in the many many hayfever sufferers out there making them think those are the new symptoms and inflating the number since. They were right all along though.
 
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